To T76Stealth

[scirocco16v]

Your a fag.

Get a life.

we don't need no haters and keyboard racers.

[bmwmcoupe]

i agree it was very calm in here

everybody gets along and loves bmw



lets keep it like this please

[H.O.T. CRX]

loves bmw??





:D



kidding guys. i'm not starting anything. i like bmw's. however, if someone could clarify this m3/m5 engines not liking a lot more power than stock. i'm afraid i can't remember if i read it from the commy t76 or somewhere else.



btw, hamann's Z8, 475lb-ft from a 5.0 v8.. holy crap is that amazing.

[T76Stealth]

I have a BMW as a family hauler, everyone has BMW's and VOLVOs around here. They are family sedans, not some sports car like BMW says and you RICERS believe. :D

[bmwmcoupe]

i agree most bmws are not sports cars, the m3 is , m coupe is



but u cant say there not amazing cars

[lowrider]

what happened to the other thread:confused:

[T76Stealth]

Originally posted by bmw318I

i agree most bmws are not sports cars, the m3 is , m coupe is



but u cant say there not amazing cars



BMW's are nice cars as family sedans. As such they are stylish transportation.



I'm a hard core power-guy. The thing I hate most is losing in a race on the street. For me I want a car that will give me style and can make tons of power: My Stealth Turbo does just that, my BMW will not.



BMW's are good all-rounders but if you buy a BMW because you think you will smoke a TT Jap car you are sadly mistaken. BMW owners get too excited and try to start taking on high-perf sports cars. They are not made for that. Granted an M3 and M5 will run most sports cars and beat them but these 2 cars are rare and costly. Nevertheless, these cars can not handle big power without breaking so in there abilities to make big power reliably even with an extra $40000, they fail miserably. And its the core of the car that fails when asked to make 550hp, namely the engine and tranny.



You gotta hand it to the Japanese, with the Stealth/3000GT TT, 300ZX TT, and Supra TT, they made monsters that could be modified to 700HP on the stock engine. Try doing that in a Vette, Mustang, BMW, Corvette. It won't happen. The supra TT engine is being touted by automotive writers as the best production engine ever made. There are Supra guys running 1000hp on the stock engine every day. They drive there little girl to school and then go to the track and pull off a 9.83@153mph on the STOCK TOYOTA ENGINE. You have to be impressed, I am, and I don't even own a Supra.

[bmwmcoupe]

Originally posted by T76Stealth





BMW's are nice cars as family sedans. As such they are stylish transportation.



I'm a hard core power-guy. The thing I hate most is losing in a race on the street. For me I want a car that will give me style and can make tons of power: My Stealth Turbo does just that, my BMW will not.



BMW's are good all-rounders but if you buy a BMW because you think you will smoke a TT Jap car you are sadly mistaken. BMW owners get too excited and try to start taking on high-perf sports cars. They are not made for that. Granted an M3 and M5 will run most sports cars and beat them but these 2 cars are rare and costly. Nevertheless, these cars can not handle big power without breaking so in there abilities to make big power reliably even with an extra $40000, they fail miserably. And its the core of the car that fails when asked to make 550hp, namely the engine and tranny.



You gotta hand it to the Japanese, with the Stealth/3000GT TT, 300ZX TT, and Supra TT, they made monsters that could be modified to 700HP on the stock engine. Try doing that in a Vette, Mustang, BMW, Corvette. It won't happen. The supra TT engine is being touted by automotive writers as the best production engine ever made. There are Supra guys running 1000hp on the stock engine every day. They drive there little girl to school and then go to the track and pull off a 9.83@153mph on the STOCK TOYOTA ENGINE. You have to be impressed, I am, and I don't even own a Supra.





Oh i kinda agree with u



im not saying bmw's are made to compete with a beats like youres on a drag strip but bring it to the trac and its a different story

[T76Stealth]

Originally posted by bmw318I







Oh i kinda agree with u



im not saying bmw's are made to compete with a beats like youres on a drag strip but bring it to the trac and its a different story



What are you guys talking about? A second-gen Stealth does .93 and over 70mph in the slalom STOCK, it has 12.5" discs Stock in the front. The Supra has been measured at .98G's in Road and track. It has one of the best stopping distances ever in Motor Trend. Are you saying a BMW 325, 540, 740... etc handles better than a SUPRA TT? Are you kidding me? :dunno:



Look the BMW is a stylish family sedan, I'll give it that. I own one. And it does do well around a track cause it is balanced, but as a complete performance car it falls short when compared to the TT Jap cars. Try to keep up with a TT RX-7 around a track w/yer BMW, good luck :confused:

[Stevo]

Stealth,

I agree with some of what you're saying. Any heavily modded car can beat any high priced supercar. But I gaurantee you that your Stealth would get smoked by any //M or AMG/Brabus/Renntech Mbz, on the track. Your car would not be able to handle more than two laps before it blew a hose, overheated, etc. etc. The power in the E46 and E39 //M's is naturally aspirated power, which is key to efficiency and longevity. Also, you stated that it's impossible to mod a Mustang/BMW heavily, without key components of the motor failing...that's just plain wrong. I've seen Mustangs(which by the way are POS, I had a brand new '96 Cobra, it sucked) with over 700hp, and the motors don't fail. Even more so with the Chevy's, Camaro....Corvette, you can drop it off to Callaway or Ligenfelter and come home with an 800hp Corvette that goes 245mph.

What it comes down to is that your car may be fast, because your pushing that motor to the limit, but I assume that your motor's power peaks in a shorter rpm band. You probably have 4-11 gear ratio. Your top speed is probably under 130mph, which you could do for one minute, if you're lucky. While a guy in an //M will be cruising to vegas doing 155mph for four hours straight.

[T76Stealth]

Originally posted by Stevo

Stealth,

I agree with some of what you're saying. Any heavily modded car can beat any high priced supercar. But I gaurantee you that your Stealth would get smoked by any //M or AMG/Brabus/Renntech Mbz, on the track. Your car would not be able to handle more than two laps before it blew a hose, overheated, etc. etc. The power in the E46 and E39 //M's is naturally aspirated power, which is key to efficiency and longevity. Also, you stated that it's impossible to mod a Mustang/BMW heavily, without key components of the motor failing...that's just plain wrong. I've seen Mustangs(which by the way are POS, I had a brand new '96 Cobra, it sucked) with over 700hp, and the motors don't fail. Even more so with the Chevy's, Camaro....Corvette, you can drop it off to Callaway or Ligenfelter and come home with an 800hp Corvette that goes 245mph.

What it comes down to is that your car may be fast, because your pushing that motor to the limit, but I assume that your motor's power peaks in a shorter rpm band. You probably have 4-11 gear ratio. Your top speed is probably under 130mph, which you could do for one minute, if you're lucky. While a guy in an //M will be cruising to vegas doing 155mph for four hours straight.



Look buddy, you are the same guy that came on yesterday and said that the Stealth TT was RWD. It is AWD.



And by the way my thread talks about STOCK engines because they pay tribute to the engineering of the manufacturer. The Stock Mustang Engine 5.0 and 4.6 SOHC and DOHC are not made to handle over 500RWHP. The tranny cannot handle over 500RWHP. The rods break and the head bolts shear apart. Believe me, I did my homework before I bought my Stealth and the TT cars I had before the Stealth. If you don't believe go to CORKY BELL's website www.cartech.net Speak to anyone there and they will tell you the same thing. Mustangs break with too much power. BTW, Corky Bell wrote the book "MAXIMUM BOOST" in case you didn't know. You should read, he talks a lot about the TT Jap engines and their abilities. He is the Premier Tuner For turbocharging in the North America.



As for the Lingenfelter Corvettes, I met John when he was working for Reeves Callaway as his chief mechanic and let me tell you this, before you can raise the boost 6psi's on Vettes with turbos you need to upgrade most of the engine, rods, pistons, everything, until only the Chevrolet Block is left. They are not strong enough engines for turbocharging. Turbocharged engines are much tougher than N/A engines. There are a lot of variables involved. read the book or any turbocharger book and they will explain. Even the stock block in the Mercedes Supercharged V-6 is much stronger than their N/A engines.



Where do you get all your BS info from? My car does not overheat, What a ya think I drive a VIPER. Most Jap Turbo cars come with oversized radiators cause they need to cool the turbo as well as the engine.



As for my gears they are 3.87 stock. I have 6-speeds stock. 6th gear has a theoretical top speed of 240 in my car but it won't pull 240mph, maybe 200mph. My car is very heavy so I can cruise at very high speeds w/stability. At 150mph in 6th gear I am doing 4000rpm's while an M3 will be doing 6000rpms. But who the hell drives at 155mph for 4 hours, I would not. I nail my car every so often but won't drive that insanely. What's your point? All the stuff you said is BS. Go BS someone else.

[Hustler]

i say u drive ur car off a bridge ........

[T76Stealth]

Originally posted by Hustler

i say u drive ur car off a bridge ........



I say you lead the way...

[Hustler]

i say ur mom has a hairy ass

[discoboy1]

Hey Stealth boy...



How much money did yo put in you car?

[jacovw4]

hey T76Stealth from what i keep reading your car is the best in the world..i am not surprised your an American.



I call that THE BUSH syndrome :D

[Hustler]

Originally posted by jacovw4

hey T76Stealth from what i keep reading your car is the best in the world..i am not surprised your an American.



I call that THE BUSH syndrome :D



:doh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Protege]

Originally posted by T76Stealth

But who the hell drives at 155mph for 4 hours, I would not.



Why wouldn't you? That's a test of reliability, proving to yourself that your engine is built right and properly boosted. But to answer your question, visit here:



www.gumball3000.com



Are you too chicken to keep up with the Ferraris for 3000 miles (not kilometres)? Your car is stable as you said, right?



OR



If that's not your thing since you're too afraid to go 155mph for 4 hours straight. Try this:



http://www.getawayinstockholm.com/



You can download the movie from Kazaa and grab "Getaway In Stockholm Part 2"....you'll understand what I mean once you see the 20 minute movie.



Oh yeah, so where are these dyno charts that supposedly show your stealth doing 900hp at the crank:rolleyes:?

[M3Driver]

Originally posted by T76Stealth





What are you guys talking about? A second-gen Stealth does .93 and over 70mph in the slalom STOCK, it has 12.5" discs Stock in the front. The Supra has been measured at .98G's in Road and track. It has one of the best stopping distances ever in Motor Trend. Are you saying a BMW 325, 540, 740... etc handles better than a SUPRA TT? Are you kidding me? :dunno:



Look the BMW is a stylish family sedan, I'll give it that. I own one. And it does do well around a track cause it is balanced, but as a complete performance car it falls short when compared to the TT Jap cars. Try to keep up with a TT RX-7 around a track w/yer BMW, good luck :confused:



Alright buddy, you have to compare apples to apples.



What's this comparing Supras to 325s, 540s, and 740s? Maybe you should consider the fact that the Supra is Toyotas sports car, and the M3 and the M Coupe are BMWs true sports cars. They leave NOTHING to be desired when compared to a Supra or Stealth :rolleyes:



Alright, lets compare the mainstream cars. What handles better/goes faster?

A Mitsubishi Diamante or a BMW 540?

A Mitsubishi Galant or a BMW 330?

A Mitsubishi Montero or a BMW X5?



See, when you compare the vehicles, the BMWs come out AHEAD. Why do you think that BMW is the MOST COMMON vehicle on Car and Driver's 10best list? And Mitsubishi has NEVER been on it? Hmm.



About the race track, I have a '89 M3 and I kill Rx-7s and other jap cars on the track all day. There is NO chance of an RX-7 keeping up with me through the twisties. They actually piss me off because they don't get out of the damn way.



I think the owners of cars like yours think they are fast on a track because you are too afraid to drive that heavy, ugly 4x4 GT car through a real corner at real speeds. I wonder why I have NEVER seen a Supra or RX-7 or Stealth compete in a sanctioned race on a road course?



BTW, your car is not as fast as you think it is. I know of many BMWs that would hand you your ass in a basket. Take for example, ActiveAutowerkes M Coupe with 600rwhp. Let's see: more hp, 1000 pounds less weight.



You just need to realize that nobody here cares about your damn car. We all think you're retarded because you use unreasonable logic to prove your points.







Oh yeah, and let's not forget that any American drag car would kick your ass on the strip. No 3000GT or Stealth has ever run under 10 secs in the 1/4. Weak. I know someone with a 66 GTO with a CRATE 502, NATURALLY ASPIRATED, that runs a 10.66(faster than any 3000GT). Imagine if he SUPERCHARGED IT????

[Hustler]

T76Stealth is living in his fantsy world....i

[Zorbeeze]

M3Driver your nuts if you think any bmw is a better performance car than an RX7 or a Supra. No way in hell can an m3 perform better in twisties than a rex and the Supra was the greatest affordable sports car ever made.

[T76Stealth]

Originally posted by M3Driver





Alright buddy, you have to compare apples to apples.



What's this comparing Supras to 325s, 540s, and 740s? Maybe you should consider the fact that the Supra is Toyotas sports car, and the M3 and the M Coupe are BMWs true sports cars. They leave NOTHING to be desired when compared to a Supra or Stealth :rolleyes:



Alright, lets compare the mainstream cars. What handles better/goes faster?

A Mitsubishi Diamante or a BMW 540?

A Mitsubishi Galant or a BMW 330?

A Mitsubishi Montero or a BMW X5?



See, when you compare the vehicles, the BMWs come out AHEAD. Why do you think that BMW is the MOST COMMON vehicle on Car and Driver's 10best list? And Mitsubishi has NEVER been on it? Hmm.



About the race track, I have a '89 M3 and I kill Rx-7s and other jap cars on the track all day. There is NO chance of an RX-7 keeping up with me through the twisties. They actually piss me off because they don't get out of the damn way.



I think the owners of cars like yours think they are fast on a track because you are too afraid to drive that heavy, ugly 4x4 GT car through a real corner at real speeds. I wonder why I have NEVER seen a Supra or RX-7 or Stealth compete in a sanctioned race on a road course?



BTW, your car is not as fast as you think it is. I know of many BMWs that would hand you your ass in a basket. Take for example, ActiveAutowerkes M Coupe with 600rwhp. Let's see: more hp, 1000 pounds less weight.



You just need to realize that nobody here cares about your damn car. We all think you're retarded because you use unreasonable logic to prove your points.







Oh yeah, and let's not forget that any American drag car would kick your ass on the strip. No 3000GT or Stealth has ever run under 10 secs in the 1/4. Weak. I know someone with a 66 GTO with a CRATE 502, NATURALLY ASPIRATED, that runs a 10.66(faster than any 3000GT). Imagine if he SUPERCHARGED IT????



OK here is another BMW owner living in la la land. I do not have an RX-7, I do not have a Supra. The 1993+ rx-7 TT have been sweeping the solo 2 circuits across North America. IT was rated by Car and Driver, Road and track, and Motor Trend as the best handling car in the years it was made 93-95 for North America.



Another thing, I don't know if you've seen the BMW M3, the latest gens DO NOT look like sports cars. They look like regular 3-series coupes with a couple of spoilers and bigger wheels. THEY DO NOT LOOK LIKE SPORTS CARS.



You are a fool for comparing the M3(any gen) engine with a SUPRA or Stealth/3000GT engine. These Japanese engines can make over 750HP on the stock engine. Their are supra guys making over 1000 on the Stock Toyota Engine( not opened at all, no head jobs nothing ). 9.8 @ 150+ MPH... STOCK ENGINE



http://www.turboimports.com/swst88supra.html



There are numerous others like this one.



The 6G72 and 2JZ-GTE are the strongest production engines that I know of. I own a 95' BMW 540i, its a good, stylish family car but that's it, its no sports car. Nor is a boxy old M3. The new ones are nicer but they still don't look like sports cars.



What are you off your rockers? I went to ActiveAutowerke.com, what a joke? LET ME TELL YOU FOR THE LAST TIME: Your Best M-Engines are no match for the TT Jap Engines mentioned above. Even if you put forged pistons and rods in your engine you will only be able to handle 550-600hp max in the M5 and 500-550 max on the latest M-engine. A stock 6G72 can make more than you even if you put forged internals. M is all marketing crap.



I went to activeautowerke.com:rolleyes:... Are you trying to impress me with this or do you just lie through your teeth, what 600rwhp? where? A specialty car you'll never see, or they never dyno. A 1995 M3, which is a 6 not a 4 and is bigger than your engine makes 360bhp not whp, the kit costs 9000$ for 360hp? :dunno: Here it is:



http://www.activeautowerke.com/turbo/OBDI-E36-M3-STG1-Turbo.asp



A freak'n talon/eclipse with a 20g turbo makes more power(420hp). :rolleyes:



The stage 11 kit is only 400+ hp. Big deal. A talon with BPU mods can smoke an M3. Do not compare an M3 to a Stealth/3000GT or Supra MKIV when it comes to power. And the handling is very good on these cars as well. How about .93 and .98g's on the skidpad and 70mph in the slalom, what else do you want, is that not good enough for STOCK handling?



How about the OBD-2 kit for 1996-1999 M3, 10400$ for 398hp not whp, what a joke:



http://www.activeautowerke.com/turbo/OBD2-E36Turbo.asp



This is the best yet: "Recommended MZ3 Turbo Package"

31794$ for 430hp, what a joke! They don't even have a dyno chart, you have to trust these guys with $30000+:



http://www.activeautowerke.com/turbo/OBD2-MZ3Turbo.asp



You wanna see Power? you wanna see proof? Maybe this will shut you up for the LAST TIME, check out the packages here:



http://www.suprastore.com/45suppac.html



How does 460hp for 1396$ sound to you? Check the dyno charts)



Want more power how does 800hp sound for 11900$? This is all on the stock engine...



Wanna see the dyno charts? These are all in RWHP not bhp...



http://www.vache.org/supra/turbos.htm



These guys drive there car every day... Tons and tons of dyno charts... LOOK AT THE POWER?



Trying to keep up with a modded TT Supra on the highway? Check out this vid vs. a BUSA and then again aginst the 900RR?



http://www.walserrz.com/movies/Walser-vs-busa.mpg



http://www.walserrz.com/movies/Walser-vs-900rr.mpg



I can't find the vid but JOHN HENNESSEY was talking smak about the Supras... SW the guy in the movies here races Hennessey's TWIN-TURBO VIPER with supposedly 800RWHP. HENNESSEY LOST TO THIS GUY and this guy is still on the STOCK SUPRA ENGINE. The viper had over $150000USD in it... it wasn't even close the SUPRA Smoked the VIPER.



<THE END>

[T76Stealth]

BTW, that is not a mistake, I did not add an extra 0 in the dollar amount. HENNESSEY had over 150 000$ in the VIPER in addition to the price of the VIPER when he raced the WALSER SUPRA!

[M3Driver]

Originally posted by Zorbeeze

M3Driver your nuts if you think any bmw is a better performance car than an RX7 or a Supra. No way in hell can an m3 perform better in twisties than a rex and the Supra was the greatest affordable sports car ever made.



I have not been on a track with an RX-7 that can keep up with me through the corners. Period. Acceleration is another story. I'm not saying that my car can outrun a modded Supra or whatever on the straights. I know it can't. I am saying I can trounce them in the corners. My car is lighter, has 50/50 weight distribution, it has a usable power curve, and it just plain handles better than an RX-7, hands down! My car is way faster than any newer M car on the track as well. BMW simply never made anything else that could come close to this car. It is a no holds barred limited production race special. There isn't anything on the car that isn't there for a racing purpose. You obviously have never been in 1G M3, otherwise you wouldn't be saying this.






Originally posted by T76Stealth

Another thing, I don't know if you've seen the BMW M3, the latest gens DO NOT look like sports cars. They look like regular 3-series coupes with a couple of spoilers and bigger wheels. THEY DO NOT LOOK LIKE SPORTS CARS.







Okay, so it has to look like a sports car to be a sports car? That makes no sense. You Stealth looks like a piece of crap, but its still a sports car. I would question the 4000LB curb weight of your car before I question the looks.




Originally posted by T76Stealth

You are a fool for comparing the M3(any gen) engine with a SUPRA or Stealth/3000GT engine. These Japanese engines can make over 750HP on the stock engine. Their are supra guys making over 1000 on the Stock Toyota Engine( not opened at all, no head jobs nothing ). 9.8 @ 150+ MPH... STOCK ENGINE







First off, those aren't stock engines. They have major turbo, exhaust, and engine management upgrades. And second, I'm not even talking about the engines. I'm comparing the handling. You didn't even read my post. This is the same crap you've been spewing in the other thread. About the AA M Coupe, I was stating it would kick YOUR ass. Not every damn Supra on the road. And I wasn't saying AA was the shit, I have never dealt with them.



You still haven't made a decent comeback. You haven't had anything to say about my post, you just went on your own tangent. You should sign up for a logic class when you get to HIGH SCHOOL.



Answer my question about which mainstream cars are better. Remember the Diamante/540 thing? Yeah, I wonder why you ignored that. You supposedly have a 540, so you know what I'm talking about. You just didn't want to admit it.



I'm not comparing the BMW engines to the Supra engines. I know, and you know, that an American V8 can be built a lot stronger and more powerful than any other engine in the world. Look at the top-fuel dragsters. There is no point arguing over who comes in second, either one of us would still lose. ;)



I have a lot of respect for Supras and RX-7s, they are awesome drag cars. But when they get into the corners, they just aren't as fast as a well-driven M car. You think the M5 is slow? Then why is it the fastest sedan in the world? Compare it to other sedans. You think the M3 is slow? Compare it to other 4-seat coupes.



You need to compare cars in the same category. BMWs have never been designed for turbos, they are designed for high hp NA applications. If you compare a stock M3 with a stock Supra, the M3 is faster. If you compare a stock M Coupe with a stock RX7, the M Coupe is faster. Of course a Supra will beat a 745. duh. A 745 will beat a Mercedes S500. When you compare BMWs stock cars to their stock competition, they are better almost every time.

[67Continental]

A couple of things. T67's big thing seems to be that the stock internals of certain Japanese engiens are great, and that these motors can be built up into monsters without alteration or modification.



Ok. Great. We Get It. We All Really Get It.



As I have pointed out, these Japanese motors are not alone in this respect. Let's close that topic.



My second point, is that while they are good cars, Supras are not the epitome of sport. I have seen tests where frustrated mechs have had to ducttape the body panels and grills of stock Supras when performing high speed passes, due to the body's inability to withstand the windspeeds. No, I didn't hear about this from the friend of a friend. I have seen this. I refer to the mid to late 90's Supra.



I do not know a lot about Japanese cars.

[T76Stealth]

Originally posted by M3Driver





I have not been on a track with an RX-7 that can keep up with me through the corners. Period. Acceleration is another story. I'm not saying that my car can outrun a modded Supra or whatever on the straights. I know it can't. I am saying I can trounce them in the corners. My car is lighter, has 50/50 weight distribution, it has a usable power curve, and it just plain handles better than an RX-7, hands down! My car is way faster than any newer M car on the track as well. BMW simply never made anything else that could come close to this car. It is a no holds barred limited production race special. There isn't anything on the car that isn't there for a racing purpose. You obviously have never been in 1G M3, otherwise you wouldn't be saying this.









Okay, so it has to look like a sports car to be a sports car? That makes no sense. You Stealth looks like a piece of crap, but its still a sports car. I would question the 4000LB curb weight of your car before I question the looks.







First off, those aren't stock engines. They have major turbo, exhaust, and engine management upgrades. And second, I'm not even talking about the engines. I'm comparing the handling. You didn't even read my post. This is the same crap you've been spewing in the other thread. About the AA M Coupe, I was stating it would kick YOUR ass. Not every damn Supra on the road. And I wasn't saying AA was the shit, I have never dealt with them.



You still haven't made a decent comeback. You haven't had anything to say about my post, you just went on your own tangent. You should sign up for a logic class when you get to HIGH SCHOOL.



Answer my question about which mainstream cars are better. Remember the Diamante/540 thing? Yeah, I wonder why you ignored that. You supposedly have a 540, so you know what I'm talking about. You just didn't want to admit it.



I'm not comparing the BMW engines to the Supra engines. I know, and you know, that an American V8 can be built a lot stronger and more powerful than any other engine in the world. Look at the top-fuel dragsters. There is no point arguing over who comes in second, either one of us would still lose. ;)



I have a lot of respect for Supras and RX-7s, they are awesome drag cars. But when they get into the corners, they just aren't as fast as a well-driven M car. You think the M5 is slow? Then why is it the fastest sedan in the world? Compare it to other sedans. You think the M3 is slow? Compare it to other 4-seat coupes.



You need to compare cars in the same category. BMWs have never been designed for turbos, they are designed for high hp NA applications. If you compare a stock M3 with a stock Supra, the M3 is faster. If you compare a stock M Coupe with a stock RX7, the M Coupe is faster. Of course a Supra will beat a 745. duh. A 745 will beat a Mercedes S500. When you compare BMWs stock cars to their stock competition, they are better almost every time.



What I was trying to prove is that you're a liar. You expect people to believe and have no proof. I HAVE PROVIDED PROOF TO YOU. You made a claim that ActiveAutowerke.com has a 600RWHP BMW that is reliable. I say NO. I went to their website and showed in the previous post that the packages for your supposed best sports cars etc... M3 and Z-M3 are wimpy. Your engines can't handle the power. 360hp... that's powerful... maybe when compared to a Honda with a medium-sized turbo. That's my point. Vs the BIG BOYS.



I don't care about the track, I don't even care about the dragstrip. What I care about is the street where I do most of all driving. This is where a lot of people race and post on this forum. Yes, at times it is dangerous but hey, that's life. On that note, the thing I hate most and my friends as well is getting beat on the street. That is why I have a powerful turbo car, so I can win.... ALL THE TIME. What do you have going for you on the street... Not much. A wimpy 2.3L. Man, your really out of your league. BTW, my car looks much better than any M, especially an 89':rolleyes: ... and sounds much better too.



Yes BMW sedans are more desirable all-around sedans than Acuras or Lexus. They almost always handle better. Yes, but why are you bringing this up? Who cares?



To me smoking the guy next to me counts. And that's where I win :bigup: and you with a 89' M3 almost always lose :dunno:



A 89' M3 vs an 89RX-7 on the street... that's more of a match... assuming of course the gal in the RX-7 doesn't have a bigger turbo, then its no match, the BMW will lose.



1989 bmw M3=cams+heads+exhaust+chip+2.3L+BLA=200hp

[scirocco16v]

hmmmm....

someone here has too much time on his hands.

Stealth, get a life and bother some other message board server.

Your anoying everyone.

Just leave already.

[T76Stealth]

Originally posted by scirocco16v

hmmmm....

someone here has too much time on his hands.

Stealth, get a life and bother some other message board server.

Your anoying everyone.

Just leave already.



It looks like the only ones getting annoyed are German Car BMW/VOLKs owners because they can't face reality... Reality checks hurt don't they. There is this Great BMW owner that thought HIS 02' M3 was tops and no Japanese car could touch him on the street. He claimed 650hp with a special turbo kit and said he could smoke every Jap car in Portsmouth. He raced my buddies single-turbo MKIV Supra on the street. Surely enough that M3 gave up after the Supra pulled 5 cars on him. He drove off after he lost not to be found again whilst everyone(25-30 people) waited for him to come back and comment. Apparently he was hanging around local diners before the race never to be seen again after the race.



BMWs and VOLKs are in my opinion nice German cars but come with very wimpy engines not befitting the Grand M image BMW portrays. Your best performance cars M for Meager!!

[eatsviper4lunch]

Originally posted by T76Stealth





What I was trying to prove is that you're a liar.





aremmmmm aremmmmmm I wonder whos the liar in here :rolleyes:

[scirocco16v]

You know....

just cause mommy pays for your car doesn't mean you gotta go and disrespect every other car.

fucc man, wake up.

[jacovw4]

Everyone has his own taste.

I dont agree with you T76stealth, Bmw have amazing engines i try to understand what your saying but in my opinion your too ARROGANT.

Yeah your Stealth is fast and mean you could probably beat almost every street car but that dosent mean the REST (euro cars) arent worth anything...

NOW READ and tell me later what you think ?




And its the core of the car that fails when asked to make 550hp, namely the engine and tranny.



Thats a quote you made earliear in this thread.

Now in this article, that ill give you the link at the end of my post, you can read that the 540 produces exactly 650bhp @ 5800 rpm and torque: 700bhp @ 4000 rpm with STOCK internal and the boost level are situated between 12 and 19 psi not your 23 psi you wanna use ;)



you can go read this article at : http://www.dinanbmw.com/default.htm click on road test and scrool down until the 1996 r&T issue and read (y)



i could go on but i have things to do, you know .So ill keep the rest of my post for the next time !!

:bigup:

[T76Stealth]

Originally posted by jacovw4





Thats a quote you made earliear in this thread.

Now in this article, that ill give you the link at the end of my post, you can read that the 540 produces exactly 650bhp @ 5800 rpm and torque: 700bhp @ 4000 rpm with STOCK internal and the boost level are situated between 12 and 19 psi not your 23 psi you wanna use ;)



you can go read this article at :



http://www.dinanbmw.com/default.htm click on road test

and scrool down until the 1996 r&T issue and read (y)



i could go on but i have things to do, you know .So ill keep the rest of my post for the next time !!

:bigup:



Another guy that is full of BS. The web site says 391hp not 650hp and that is crankHP not rwhp. You guys are such BS'ers. Like little kids. You make a claim and expect people not to verify. Here is what they say about the supercharger for the newest 540i:



"Dinan's supercharger system for VANOS equipped 540s

(9/98-2002 production) delivers unparalleled acceleration, everyday driveability and the reliability enthusiasts have come to expect from a Dinan-tuned BMW. Countless hours of development, refinement and testing have resulted in a supercharged engine that produces 391 horsepower and 376 lb/ft. torque, yet behaves in a civilized manner. Close attention to detail and the highest quality materials ensure that the fit and finish are on par with factory standards. Now 540 owners can enjoy the same horsepower to weight ratio as the new (E39) M5, with the convenience of an automatic transmission."



Where does it say 650hp, the engine can barely handle 450hp in the 540i, the M5 550hp. Cheez, freak'n liar.



Here is what they have to say about the Supercharger Stage 3 system for the older 540i:



"The Stage 3 Supercharger System adds Dinan's high performance cam set which has been developed specifically for use with the supercharger and Free Flow Exhaust System. Peak horsepower is increased to 439 at 6500 rpm for a 37 horsepower gain over the Stage 2 System."



Clearly not 650hp like you said. Why are you lying? Why don't you borrow a wing from your Honda friend, maybe you'll get an extra 30hp.



BTW genius, the reason the supercharger kit runs at 8psi's is for a reason, it HAS NO INTERCOOLER. You just decided to make an imaginary number of what you think the HP would be at between 12-19psi's. I think it would be kinda hard to run that boost on the 540 without an intercooler which the kit DOES NOT HAVE. For 6000$ you think they'd include one. NOT. Even it it did have an intercooler and made 15psi's the engine could not sustain that pressure in its current form.



I didn't know there were so many BS'ers on this board... :dunno:

[jacovw4]

hey you Looser... you dont bother looking further then your nose do you ... scrool down more through the article !



And before you acuse me of beeing a LIAR you should start paying more respect to ppl around you ! Your parents didnt do to good of a job rasing you ???!!!



Is it me or do you only see what you wanna beleive ...the supercharged version is not 391 but 400 hp and if you look lower in PAGE 5, you know there are more then one page in book here in CANADA maybe in the us its different, you will have the TURBO version ...



Now who is the one that dosent read the whole article... TELL me KID...

[T76Stealth]

Originally posted by jacovw4

hey you Looser... you dont bother looking further then your nose do you ... scrool down more through the article !



And before you accuse me of beeing a LIAR you should start paying more respect to ppl around you ! Your parent didnt do to good of a job rasing you ???!!!



Is it me or do you only see what you wanna beleive ...the supercharged version is not 391 but 400 hp and if you look lower in PAGE 5, you know there are more then one pages in our book here in CANADA, you will have the TURBO version ...



Now who is the one that dosent read the whole article... TELL me KID...



First of all, you are lost and REALLY REALLY can NOT spell!



That is DINAN's world challenge car!



It is a stripped car not for the road. Meaning NOT PRODUCTION



That engine blew up when they tried to go over 13psi's with it, why do you think it is not an option in their present catalogue.



It costs 200 000$.



They estimate that HP figure 650hp I CALL BS on that...



Judging by the trap 125mph and weight 2800lbs(1000lbs less than a stock 540i) this car had about 380-390@wheels. More like 440-450Hp@ crank



SHow me dyno numbers like I showed you.



Again with the BMW BS



Again, they do not sell that kit.



Again, the engine blew up. It never had close to 500hp.



Again, that engine is fine for 450-500hp MAX MAX MAX STFU OK



Ahhh, you guys never stop, the Supra made 1000RWHP on the STOCK engine that is over 1150CrankHP. THe Stealth/3000GT made over 702AWHP over 900crankHP on the STOCK ENGINE and more to come.



AGAIN THERE IS NO COMPARISON



<<THE END>>

[jacovw4]

your just plain stupid...

if i dont know how to spell english well thats cause im french and yes there is more then one language in the WORLD...



you claimed that a bmw engine couldnt take psi i showed you that it can,

YOU claimed it couldnt get over the 500hp again i showed you it has passed the 500 mark

Now you say its a stripped car I SAY ITS A STOCK ENGINE , what the F U C K does a sripped car mean when i am talking about the ENGINE ...



i dont care if it is or it isnt in producton DOES IT HAVE MORE THEN 500hp YES can it handle 12-19 psi YES now i answered your questions dont go and change them arround ..



SO AFTER ALL YOU READ THE HOLE ARTICLE huh ??BRAVO its not so hard to see that theres more then 1 page..



Oh and can you tell me your sources cause i would like to know where you found this THX have a nice day !!
That engine blew up when they tried to go over 13psi's with it, why do you think it is not an option in their present catalogue. :p

[T76Stealth]

Originally posted by jacovw4

[B]your just plain stupid...

if i dont know how to spell english well thats cause im french and yes there is more then one language in the WORLD...



you claimed that a bmw engine couldnt take psi i showed you that it can,

YOU claimed it couldnt get over the 500hp again i showed you it has passed the 500 mark

Now you say its a stripped car I SAY ITS A STOCK ENGINE , what the F U C K does a sripped car mean when i am talking about the ENGINE ...



i dont care if it is or it isnt in producton DOES IT HAVE MORE THEN 500hp YES can it handle 12-19 psi YES now i answered your questions dont go and change them arround ..



SO AFTER ALL YOU READ THE HOLE ARTICLE huh ??BRAVO its not so hard to see that theres more then 1 page..







Oh and can you tell me your sources cause i would like to know where you found this THX have a nice day !!



Things just don't sink into your head. :dunno: :confused: :doh:

[jacovw4]

i could say the same for you LOL :D

[Hustler]

T76Stealth whats ur 1/4 m time on your typing ?? i never seen some1 write so much garbage

[imark16v]

kessé que ce putin de thread la fait icitte?? fouttez-moi ca dans general qu'on en entendent pu parler, bordel! Ca parle meme pu de BM icitte....

[BMW4Life]

All i could say is that I would rather have a 2002 M3 then a stealth!!!!!

[Hustler]

go w/t bmw stylz any day :D

[bmwmcoupe]

Originally posted by Hustler

go w/t bmw stylz any day :D





for sure



this guy is gay





that why he uses is stealth to pick up

[Hustler]

did u see what the loser wrote me ?? look in the VW fourm

-2 ALL VW OWNERS

[M3Driver]

Originally posted by T76Stealth





What I was trying to prove is that you're a liar. You expect people to believe and have no proof. I HAVE PROVIDED PROOF TO YOU. You made a claim that ActiveAutowerke.com has a 600RWHP BMW that is reliable. I say NO. I went to their website and showed in the previous post that the packages for your supposed best sports cars etc... M3 and Z-M3 are wimpy. Your engines can't handle the power. 360hp... that's powerful... maybe when compared to a Honda with a medium-sized turbo. That's my point. Vs the BIG BOYS.



I never said anything about reliable. I said they had a car that would KICK YOUR ASS (you know, like your daddy used to do to ya)



And also, BMWs have some of the fastest production cars available. Who gives a shit about aftermarket? At first you were comparing your modded out Stealth to stock BMWs. No shit a modded Stealth would be faster. The fact is, an M3 or M5 would kick a stock Stealth's ass!




Originally posted by T76Stealth





I don't care about the track, I don't even care about the dragstrip. What I care about is the street where I do most of all driving. This is where a lot of people race and post on this forum. Yes, at times it is dangerous but hey, that's life. On that note, the thing I hate most and my friends as well is getting beat on the street. That is why I have a powerful turbo car, so I can win.... ALL THE TIME. What do you have going for you on the street... Not much. A wimpy 2.3L. Man, your really out of your league. BTW, my car looks much better than any M, especially an 89':rolleyes: ... and sounds much better too.



You don't care about racetracks because that's where real drivers go with real cars. You can't do shit on the street compared to on a track.



Oh, and BTW, I have a serious motor in my car. It isn't a wimpy 2.3, it's a heavily modded 2.5L, capable of beating 98% of cars on the road. My power to weight ratio is under 9 pounds per hp. I hang with Ferraris buddy. If you don't think thats fast, then you have problems. I'll race any RX-7 or Supra I come up on, and I'll win 75% of the time.



You have no idea what my car looks like. I gaurantee I get more looks than you.




Originally posted by T76Stealth







Yes BMW sedans are more desirable all-around sedans than Acuras or Lexus. They almost always handle better. Yes, but why are you bringing this up? Who cares?



Because you were saying that BMWs suck, and I'm saying they are the best production vehicle on the road today!




Originally posted by T76Stealth





To me smoking the guy next to me counts. And that's where I win :bigup: and you with a 89' M3 almost always lose :dunno:



Again, I can beat C5 Corvettes, I almost never lose, unless the other car is heavily modified.




Originally posted by T76Stealth





A 89' M3 vs an 89RX-7 on the street... that's more of a match... assuming of course the gal in the RX-7 doesn't have a bigger turbo, then its no match, the BMW will lose.



1989 bmw M3=cams+heads+exhaust+chip+2.3L+BLA=200hp



1989 BMW M3 = 2.5 stroker crank, 11.25:1 Ross pistons, Total Seal gapless rings, Stage 3 ported head, Schrick 284/276 cams, E3 48mm individual throttle bodies & trumpets, E3 AFM, E3 header w/ 3" exhaust, ltw flywheel, ltw racing clutch, 4.10:1 rearend, etc. = 275hp@7000rpm. Not to mention it only weighs 2700 pounds WITH me in it.



Like I said, I can beat 98% of what's on the street.



Here's a pic of my car, proof that I actually have a car. Let's see yours!



http://www.bayareamotorsport.com/~dswernoff/Hot%20Import%20Nights/DSCN1642.JPG

[20InchChrome]

damn T76Stealth u talk alot u write replies bigger then a book, look shut the f*ck up with your BS show us pics of your car and a dyno slip too and by the way my ferrari is faster then your wimpy car nanananana ........also your car isnt a sports car

GET A LIFE hahahahahahah



M3Driver:bigup: :bigup: on your car

[VTEC_RYDAZ]

Originally posted by 20InchChrome

damn T76Stealth u talk alot u write replies bigger then a book, look shut the f*ck up with your BS show us pics of your car and a dyno slip too and by the way my ferrari is faster then your wimpy car nanananana ........also your car isnt a sports car

GET A LIFE hahahahahahah



M3Driver:bigup: :bigup: on your car



HAHA, :laugh: It's funny cuz your greek. Anyways... Guy's no need to hate him. Leave him alone and his car which has 550+HP with only 3000 dollars :rolleyes:

[M3Driver]

Thanks for the :bigup: :bigup: man, what kind of Ferrari do you have? If it has 20s, I'm gonna :bigup: :bigup: :bigup: you back! Otherwise just :bigup: :bigup: :beer:



BTW, I know in advance T76 will say Ferraris suck, and when that happens, we will know for sure he is :goofy:

[eatsviper4lunch]

M3Driver, very very clean looking car you've got :bigup: :bigup: I really like those old M3 model. We all know that BMW does incredible cars, the new M5 and the M3 with 333hp are awesome cars, the problem is only this guy with only loving Stealth and bitching all the other brands. Me I really like Buicks, but thats not a reason starting to insult everyone that doesnt drive a Buick. I respect the choice of the others to drive the car they want and thats it. That punk should really shut is mouth.

[M3Driver]

It is really amazing how someone like T76 can start such a flame war. Normal people can't help but to jump in and tell him what's up. I realize how arguing with him and his baseless points is like boxing a 3 year old, but I still need to defend my marque in the face of his stupidity. Unbelievable! :dunno:

[M3Driver]

You know, I went home and had a good night's rest, and I decided that he was right. I'm going to sell my BMWs and buy a Dodge Stealth. Let's see, he spent $3k on his turbos, and the car is probably 6-7k... so with taxes... OK I will sell my M3 and my 318 for $11k (US) to anyone who wants them, or I will trade for a Stealth in good condition.

[bmwmcoupe]

U have a beautiful car m3 driver

[MonOncTsi]

Originally posted by eats*****4lunch

I respect the choice of the others to drive the car they want and thats it. That punk should really shut is mouth.



Amen to that! ;)

[M3Driver]

Thanks for the compliments!



:beer:

[M power]

m3 driver if ever your head falls off and you decide to sell your car for a beutifull :barf:dodge please calll me all buy it off of you...



this is a little story for t76 stealth



there once was 3 cars . obviously a t76 stealth , a type r and last but not least a02 bmw m3. in each car there was one of the three triplets. whill the were driveing down the main boul. this pretty young girl was waiting for the bus as the lite turned red at the intersection they all asked her if she wanted a ride and guess what car she got in .... it starts whit an M and finishes buy smoking a stealth in the 3rd gear ...



guess who gets the ass

[BMW4Life]

HAHAHHAHAHH Good story M Power :bigup:



it's also funny because it's true!!

[scirocco16v]

looks like this thread shut him up for good!

:bigup:

[BMW4EVER]

Is Strange!

I have a friend who owned a red stealth for a year, stock, and no modification or so... The only thing he does is going fast at straight line !!! :D Guess what! In a year, he spent over 12000 CAD to repair the engine :eek: and right after that he sold it 14000 CAD.

So don't bullshit here by comparing how reliable is you stealth shit or so... My m3, no forced induction can beat twin turbo stealth any time!

I'm just telling the truth... I have done it so many times!:D :D :D

[Accord93]

it's weird.. as soon as we ask him anything about his perf or pics he suddenly vanishes. :confused:

[[Ef]saceone[sF]]

wow... m3driver this is the sickest older bimmer ive ever seen !!!! :bow: :bow: :bow:

[bmwmcoupe]

go check out www.dtmpower.net



all these guys are on there



insane bimmers

[[Ef]saceone[sF]]

:eek: :eek: there is some sweet ride on that site!! thanks forthe link :bigup:

[M3Driver]

Thanks for the compliments!



Here's another cool pic. I got this last weekend on the track.



http://www.mnsportcompacts.net/Photos/aarrfjuly20/dsc00037.jpg

[[Ef]saceone[sF]]

sweet !!! but i dont really like bimmers on the track ( im the bigest ferrari f1 fan ) lol .. just kidding ! nice car again ! have fun on the track , it looks cool ! :bigup:

[bmwmcoupe]

ure e30 m3 is incredibly sick!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Br0kWRX]

great name, great car!!

[Pillpopper]

nice goin M3driver i waz sick of seing Stealth talk s**t

And nice car my friend has the same model bimmer as yours

And hes gonna sup-it-up :bigup: :bigup: :bigup:

[honda93]

Very nice man..:bigup:

[T76supra]

Originally posted by eats*****4lunch

M3Driver, very very clean looking car you've got :bigup: :bigup: I really like those old M3 model. We all know that BMW does incredible cars, the new M5 and the M3 with 333hp are awesome cars, the problem is only this guy with only loving Stealth and bitching all the other brands. Me I really like Buicks, but thats not a reason starting to insult everyone that doesnt drive a Buick. I respect the choice of the others to drive the car they want and thats it. That punk should really shut is mouth.



C'mon the old M3's looks like crap--->Boxes on wheels. Then again, you shouldn't talk, you drive a GN...



BTW, that ricer M3 is lucky if it has 200hp. 2.3Liters no turbo, C'mon, he can yap all he wants about ported this and ported that and cams this... exhaust that, fact is, it is only 2.3L and modifying a 2.3L NON-TURBO WON'T GET YOU MUCH, just BS if you believe it.



T76Stealth out.

[AudioAltima]

Originally posted by T76supra





C'mon the old M3's looks like crap--->Boxes on wheels. Then again, you shouldn't talk, you drive a GN...



BTW, that ricer M3 is lucky if it has 200hp. 2.3Liters no turbo, C'mon, he can yap all he wants about ported this and ported that and cams this... exhaust that, fact is, it is only 2.3L and modifying a 2.3L NON-TURBO WON'T GET YOU MUCH, just BS if you believe it.



T76Stealth out.

this coming from a guy who needs power just to get off the line.



put it this way, you 2 ton box aint much better then his... oh wait you don't have a car.... I do like the stealth however, it's just the fact that you don't deserve to own one!



* btw, I love the old style M3s!!!!

[yzfasttoys]

sacra__nt, vous etes pas tanné de vous obstiner pour des si et des ca taaaaaa...



Laissez le jaser lautre jo connaissant ayant reponse a tout pis thats it:rolleyes:

[T76supra]

Originally posted by 99AltimaGXE



this coming from a guy who needs power just to get off the line.



put it this way, you 2 ton box aint much better then his... oh wait you don't have a car.... I do like the stealth however, it's just the fact that you don't deserve to own one!



* btw, I love the old style M3s!!!!



Now just hold on a second here. If you do some research you'll see that a Stealth has 317lbs/ft of torque at 2500rpm's STOCK.



Hmmm, my car his a little over 700HP, probably closer to 800HP, how does that compare to a 200HP civic, oh sorry BMW.



BTW, do you let your Grandma wash the Altima after she lends it you? I can't remember where it was, but I remember there was a magazine joke about a Grandma who wanted more power because her 1999 altima was too SLOW! Isn't that embarassing Wimpoid.



Talking all tough and here he is with a 99 Altima, what a joke!

[AudioAltima]

Originally posted by T76supra





Now just hold on a second here. If you do some research you'll see that a Stealth has 317lbs/ft of torque at 2500rpm's STOCK.



Hmmm, my car his a little over 700HP, probably closer to 800HP, how does that compare to a 200HP civic, oh sorry BMW.



BTW, do you let your Grandma wash the Altima after she lends it you? I can't remember where it was, but I remember there was a magazine joke about a Grandma who wanted more power because her 1999 altima was too SLOW! Isn't that embarassing Wimpoid.



Talking all tough and here he is with a 99 Altima, what a joke!

I've driven far more expensive and more powerful cars then you. I don't need a penis extension to get reconized. I bought my car cause I don't need the hassle! Your little fairy comments don't bother me. And actually it's not embarasing, our cars serve different purposes (mine and yours), or should I say the bus you pay to take....



And as for powerful cars, wow they are nice, I have had seat time in ALOT of different cars, not enough to get to know the car, however I know what power feels like, and have been dumb enough to drive a car faster then most people on this board would ever dream of going. However my car right now is what I wanted to buy, I made the choice and I like. But either way, at least I have a car! Can't say the same for you!

[bmwmcoupe]

Originally posted by 99AltimaGXE



I've driven far more expensive and more powerful cars then you. I don't need a penis extension to get reconized. I bought my car cause I don't need the hassle! Your little fairy comments don't bother me. And actually it's not embarasing, our cars serve different purposes (mine and yours), or should I say the bus you pay to take....



And as for powerful cars, wow they are nice, I have had seat time in ALOT of different cars, not enough to get to know the car, however I know what power feels like, and have been dumb enough to drive a car faster then most people on this board would ever dream of going. However my car right now is what I wanted to buy, I made the choice and I like. But either way, at least I have a car! Can't say the same for you!





wow ure a big man





hehe just pulling ure leg

[T76supra]

Originally posted by 99AltimaGXE



I've driven far more expensive and more powerful cars then you. I don't need a penis extension to get reconized. I bought my car cause I don't need the hassle! Your little fairy comments don't bother me. And actually it's not embarasing, our cars serve different purposes (mine and yours), or should I say the bus you pay to take....



And as for powerful cars, wow they are nice, I have had seat time in ALOT of different cars, not enough to get to know the car, however I know what power feels like, and have been dumb enough to drive a car faster then most people on this board would ever dream of going. However my car right now is what I wanted to buy, I made the choice and I like. But either way, at least I have a car! Can't say the same for you!



:rolleyes: What do you know? If only you knew what I really drive? Doesn't bother me though but an Altima, C'mon. No respect from me with that car, especially the way you're talking like you know it all, with your cheap 2.4L engine. I will never believe a true car buff would buy a slow-ass car like that, especially with all that SEAT time in really-expensive, powerful, quality MUSTANGS.

[AudioAltima]

Originally posted by T76supra





:rolleyes: What do you know? If only you knew what I really drive? Doesn't bother me though but an Altima, C'mon. No respect from me with that car, especially the way you're talking like you know it all, with your cheap 2.4L engine. I will never believe a true car buff would buy a slow-ass car like that, especially with all that SEAT time in really-expensive, powerful, quality MUSTANGS.

I don't care what you think of me. I don't hide behind my posts. I go out and meet everyone every week, and everything I say can be confirmed with people that do know me. And mustangs? hah no. I driven much more then that. Try seat time in ferraris, porsches, sl600s... the list goes on. 190mph in a Porsche, had to back off due to traffic about 2 kms ahead. Speed is one thing, however, maturity is another. I can't say I'll grow out of speed, but I will grow into maturity. And at this point in my life, I have more to think about then having an 800hp car, or BSing about one for that matter. until you come to me, and say to my face, 'I'm T76Turbo and this is my car' your just another little 15yr who sits behind his PC telling stories which no one can confirm.

[AudioAltima]

Originally posted by bmw318I







wow ure a big man





hehe just pulling ure leg

thanks dude! I'm 6'3" :D



but on a serious note, I won't be out-witted by a 15yr old with no life, and no experience!



while I got you here, how was Solid on Thus., I couldn't make it, I was tired, and had to work Friday!

[bmwmcoupe]

it was very entertaining:bigup:

[M power]

yah i hate does 15 year old computer racers.... wait a minute????

lol at myself

props to ryan ,thats some good comeback

i share the same opinion .al believe it when i see it...

[Br0kWRX]

lockity-lock-lock