scirocco16v
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Your a fag.
Get a life.
we don't need no haters and keyboard racers.
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loves bmw??
kidding guys. i'm not starting anything. i like bmw's. however, if someone could clarify this m3/m5 engines not liking a lot more power than stock. i'm afraid i can't remember if i read it from the commy t76 or somewhere else.
btw, hamann's Z8, 475lb-ft from a 5.0 v8.. holy crap is that amazing.
kidding guys. i'm not starting anything. i like bmw's. however, if someone could clarify this m3/m5 engines not liking a lot more power than stock. i'm afraid i can't remember if i read it from the commy t76 or somewhere else.
btw, hamann's Z8, 475lb-ft from a 5.0 v8.. holy crap is that amazing.
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I have a BMW as a family hauler, everyone has BMW's and VOLVOs around here. They are family sedans, not some sports car like BMW says and you RICERS believe.
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BMW's are nice cars as family sedans. As such they are stylish transportation.
I'm a hard core power-guy. The thing I hate most is losing in a race on the street. For me I want a car that will give me style and can make tons of power: My Stealth Turbo does just that, my BMW will not.
BMW's are good all-rounders but if you buy a BMW because you think you will smoke a TT Jap car you are sadly mistaken. BMW owners get too excited and try to start taking on high-perf sports cars. They are not made for that. Granted an M3 and M5 will run most sports cars and beat them but these 2 cars are rare and costly. Nevertheless, these cars can not handle big power without breaking so in there abilities to make big power reliably even with an extra $40000, they fail miserably. And its the core of the car that fails when asked to make 550hp, namely the engine and tranny.
You gotta hand it to the Japanese, with the Stealth/3000GT TT, 300ZX TT, and Supra TT, they made monsters that could be modified to 700HP on the stock engine. Try doing that in a Vette, Mustang, BMW, Corvette. It won't happen. The supra TT engine is being touted by automotive writers as the best production engine ever made. There are Supra guys running 1000hp on the stock engine every day. They drive there little girl to school and then go to the track and pull off a 9.83@153mph on the STOCK TOYOTA ENGINE. You have to be impressed, I am, and I don't even own a Supra.
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What are you guys talking about? A second-gen Stealth does .93 and over 70mph in the slalom STOCK, it has 12.5" discs Stock in the front. The Supra has been measured at .98G's in Road and track. It has one of the best stopping distances ever in Motor Trend. Are you saying a BMW 325, 540, 740... etc handles better than a SUPRA TT? Are you kidding me? :dunno:
Look the BMW is a stylish family sedan, I'll give it that. I own one. And it does do well around a track cause it is balanced, but as a complete performance car it falls short when compared to the TT Jap cars. Try to keep up with a TT RX-7 around a track w/yer BMW, good luck
Stealth,
I agree with some of what you're saying. Any heavily modded car can beat any high priced supercar. But I gaurantee you that your Stealth would get smoked by any //M or AMG/Brabus/Renntech Mbz, on the track. Your car would not be able to handle more than two laps before it blew a hose, overheated, etc. etc. The power in the E46 and E39 //M's is naturally aspirated power, which is key to efficiency and longevity. Also, you stated that it's impossible to mod a Mustang/BMW heavily, without key components of the motor failing...that's just plain wrong. I've seen Mustangs(which by the way are POS, I had a brand new '96 Cobra, it sucked) with over 700hp, and the motors don't fail. Even more so with the Chevy's, Camaro....Corvette, you can drop it off to Callaway or Ligenfelter and come home with an 800hp Corvette that goes 245mph.
What it comes down to is that your car may be fast, because your pushing that motor to the limit, but I assume that your motor's power peaks in a shorter rpm band. You probably have 4-11 gear ratio. Your top speed is probably under 130mph, which you could do for one minute, if you're lucky. While a guy in an //M will be cruising to vegas doing 155mph for four hours straight.
I agree with some of what you're saying. Any heavily modded car can beat any high priced supercar. But I gaurantee you that your Stealth would get smoked by any //M or AMG/Brabus/Renntech Mbz, on the track. Your car would not be able to handle more than two laps before it blew a hose, overheated, etc. etc. The power in the E46 and E39 //M's is naturally aspirated power, which is key to efficiency and longevity. Also, you stated that it's impossible to mod a Mustang/BMW heavily, without key components of the motor failing...that's just plain wrong. I've seen Mustangs(which by the way are POS, I had a brand new '96 Cobra, it sucked) with over 700hp, and the motors don't fail. Even more so with the Chevy's, Camaro....Corvette, you can drop it off to Callaway or Ligenfelter and come home with an 800hp Corvette that goes 245mph.
What it comes down to is that your car may be fast, because your pushing that motor to the limit, but I assume that your motor's power peaks in a shorter rpm band. You probably have 4-11 gear ratio. Your top speed is probably under 130mph, which you could do for one minute, if you're lucky. While a guy in an //M will be cruising to vegas doing 155mph for four hours straight.
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Look buddy, you are the same guy that came on yesterday and said that the Stealth TT was RWD. It is AWD.
And by the way my thread talks about STOCK engines because they pay tribute to the engineering of the manufacturer. The Stock Mustang Engine 5.0 and 4.6 SOHC and DOHC are not made to handle over 500RWHP. The tranny cannot handle over 500RWHP. The rods break and the head bolts shear apart. Believe me, I did my homework before I bought my Stealth and the TT cars I had before the Stealth. If you don't believe go to CORKY BELL's website www.cartech.net Speak to anyone there and they will tell you the same thing. Mustangs break with too much power. BTW, Corky Bell wrote the book "MAXIMUM BOOST" in case you didn't know. You should read, he talks a lot about the TT Jap engines and their abilities. He is the Premier Tuner For turbocharging in the North America.
As for the Lingenfelter Corvettes, I met John when he was working for Reeves Callaway as his chief mechanic and let me tell you this, before you can raise the boost 6psi's on Vettes with turbos you need to upgrade most of the engine, rods, pistons, everything, until only the Chevrolet Block is left. They are not strong enough engines for turbocharging. Turbocharged engines are much tougher than N/A engines. There are a lot of variables involved. read the book or any turbocharger book and they will explain. Even the stock block in the Mercedes Supercharged V-6 is much stronger than their N/A engines.
Where do you get all your BS info from? My car does not overheat, What a ya think I drive a VIPER. Most Jap Turbo cars come with oversized radiators cause they need to cool the turbo as well as the engine.
As for my gears they are 3.87 stock. I have 6-speeds stock. 6th gear has a theoretical top speed of 240 in my car but it won't pull 240mph, maybe 200mph. My car is very heavy so I can cruise at very high speeds w/stability. At 150mph in 6th gear I am doing 4000rpm's while an M3 will be doing 6000rpms. But who the hell drives at 155mph for 4 hours, I would not. I nail my car every so often but won't drive that insanely. What's your point? All the stuff you said is BS. Go BS someone else.
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I say you lead the way...
Why wouldn't you? That's a test of reliability, proving to yourself that your engine is built right and properly boosted. But to answer your question, visit here:
www.gumball3000.com
Are you too chicken to keep up with the Ferraris for 3000 miles (not kilometres)? Your car is stable as you said, right?
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If that's not your thing since you're too afraid to go 155mph for 4 hours straight. Try this:
http://www.getawayinstockholm.com/
You can download the movie from Kazaa and grab "Getaway In Stockholm Part 2"....you'll understand what I mean once you see the 20 minute movie.
Oh yeah, so where are these dyno charts that supposedly show your stealth doing 900hp at the crank
?Originally posted by T76Stealth
What are you guys talking about? A second-gen Stealth does .93 and over 70mph in the slalom STOCK, it has 12.5" discs Stock in the front. The Supra has been measured at .98G's in Road and track. It has one of the best stopping distances ever in Motor Trend. Are you saying a BMW 325, 540, 740... etc handles better than a SUPRA TT? Are you kidding me? :dunno:
Look the BMW is a stylish family sedan, I'll give it that. I own one. And it does do well around a track cause it is balanced, but as a complete performance car it falls short when compared to the TT Jap cars. Try to keep up with a TT RX-7 around a track w/yer BMW, good luck
Alright buddy, you have to compare apples to apples.
What's this comparing Supras to 325s, 540s, and 740s? Maybe you should consider the fact that the Supra is Toyotas sports car, and the M3 and the M Coupe are BMWs true sports cars. They leave NOTHING to be desired when compared to a Supra or Stealth
Alright, lets compare the mainstream cars. What handles better/goes faster?
A Mitsubishi Diamante or a BMW 540?
A Mitsubishi Galant or a BMW 330?
A Mitsubishi Montero or a BMW X5?
See, when you compare the vehicles, the BMWs come out AHEAD. Why do you think that BMW is the MOST COMMON vehicle on Car and Driver's 10best list? And Mitsubishi has NEVER been on it? Hmm.
About the race track, I have a '89 M3 and I kill Rx-7s and other jap cars on the track all day. There is NO chance of an RX-7 keeping up with me through the twisties. They actually piss me off because they don't get out of the damn way.
I think the owners of cars like yours think they are fast on a track because you are too afraid to drive that heavy, ugly 4x4 GT car through a real corner at real speeds. I wonder why I have NEVER seen a Supra or RX-7 or Stealth compete in a sanctioned race on a road course?
BTW, your car is not as fast as you think it is. I know of many BMWs that would hand you your ass in a basket. Take for example, ActiveAutowerkes M Coupe with 600rwhp. Let's see: more hp, 1000 pounds less weight.
You just need to realize that nobody here cares about your damn car. We all think you're retarded because you use unreasonable logic to prove your points.
Oh yeah, and let's not forget that any American drag car would kick your ass on the strip. No 3000GT or Stealth has ever run under 10 secs in the 1/4. Weak. I know someone with a 66 GTO with a CRATE 502, NATURALLY ASPIRATED, that runs a 10.66(faster than any 3000GT). Imagine if he SUPERCHARGED IT????
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