The best GTI ever made is...

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...the Mk3 VR6?

http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/article_1219.shtml

Der Ölmesser: The Best GTI Ever Made Is...
March 1, 2005

by: Brad Beardow
The Mk3 GTI VR6. Here’s why…

When criteria such as affordability, mod-ability, livability, and an over all fun-factor are considered, the 3rd-gen GTI with a VR6 engine comes out on top. Don’t believe me? Check this out:

The Mk1 GTI is a blast to drive, no doubt. If you can find one still running and not rusted out, it’s a good buy, and yes, there are a million different modifications available. Compared to the newer generations of GTIs, the Rabbit is just too cramped and rickety to be lived with on a daily basis, especially when modded for more performance. It’s a great car with tons of charm and I’d love to own another one, but not if it was my only form of transportation.

Many have called the Mk2 GTI the ultimate GTI, and that each version after is some sort of proof that VW lost their way – hell, even Herr Pischetsrieder admitted as much. But for me, in the year 2005, this just isn’t true. Decent Mk2 GTIs are getting scarce, and most by now have some pretty big miles on their early-‘80s technology chassis. Like the Mk1, the Mk2 chassis was never very stout to begin with, and age has taken its toll, especially if you’ve ever owned a car with a newer, CAD-developed structure. Let’s face it – Mk2 chassis rigidity is measured in decibels, not megahertz. And just as with the Mk1 version, this 2nd-gen GTI has no ABS or airbags for those who both want and need them. The interior, while much roomier than the Mk1 cars (at 6'3", I don't fit in those very well), [Okay, at 6'4 I fit fine :rolleyes: ] still feels very old. Don't get me wrong - old can be very cool; but I suppose I just never thought much of the Mk2 interior, even when they were new. Too angular for my tastes then, and even more so today.

The Mk4 GTI is the stiffest Golf chassis to date, but it’s also the heaviest, too. Used examples are still rather expensive, as are many of the parts used to modify them. They can be made to perform well, but in my opinion, the fun-factor just isn’t there. Steering feel is way too light and numb, and not being able to easily adjust front wheel camber past a pretty static setting is a cardinal sin as far as I’m concerned. Drive-by-wire throttle technology bugs the hell out of me, too, so the Mk4 really comes up short according my own set of GTI criteria.

The Mk5 GTI is not here yet, and though all signs point to it having a wonderful chassis with a great combination of engine, steering, and braking performance, that not-so-irrelevant fact that it’s not available here yet (and that I’ve yet to drive one) automatically takes it out of the running for this go ‘round.

So, as you can plainly see, it’s the Mk3 GTI VR6 that comes out on top this time. It’s been around long enough to be affordable to buy and to modify; yet it’s new enough to possess a fairly stiff structure, along with good interior space and ergonomics. The steering has almost perfect weight and feel, and the ABS brakes are well beyond adequate. Dual airbags are there as well – just in case. Simply stated, the Mk3 is new and comfortable enough to not piss-off your significant other or your mom on a long drive, yet it’s old enough to be affordable to purchase and insure.

Best of all, this version of the GTI came with that glorious narrow angle 15-degree VR6 engine. No stoopid electronic throttle body messes with your wishes, either – there’s a good, old-fashioned cable connected to your right foot. Every possible bolt-on mod is available, and there are now actually an almost countless number of forced induction kits from which to choose.

Contrary to popular opinion, the Mk3 GTI VR6 can be made to handle, if that’s your thing. Front camber is easily adjusted (Hallelujah!) and if you’re considerate regarding your combinations of spring/shock rates, front and rear roll stiffness, wheels/tires, and alignment settings, there isn’t another VW you need fear on your average road course – well, you know what I mean…

So there you have it – scientific proof that the Mk3 GTI VR6 is the best GTI ever produced for the North American market.

Now, if it’s possible I’ve only written this silly column to justify my potentially irrational love for the Mk3 GTI VR6 (quite possible, actually), then I guess I may soon have to put my money where my mouth is, as VWvortex plans to gather an example of each GTI generation and put on a five-way shootout sometime this summer. I’m not worried.
 
JuniorNasty said:
What are we lloking at...looks...performance...comfort ?

All those things plus "affordability, mod-ability, livability, and fun-factor."

Overall, he says the Mk3 GTI VR6 is the best.
 
he's wrong... 1st of all, he mentions something about the fact that rabbit are hard to find, not to mention in decent condition & same thing about Mk2...... something he doesn't even consider for the Mk3 VR6... There aren't that many left.. they are very hard to find because they were all stolen.. I'ma living proof, I had mine for 1,5 yrs before it was stolen..
Anyways maybe not as bad in other parts of the world but in Montreal/Quebec, they're almost impossible to find..
 
I don't like that he relies so strongly on current availability and pricing of the cars, and not their fun factor to make his claim.
 
volksaddict said:
Selon moi : A1 GTI > A2 GTI > A3 GTI ...

agreed, the MK2 16 valve is a force to reckoned with and well MK1's are simply a blast to drive.
 
fredobd said:
you mean not to be reckoned with? ;) And I'd slip the Mk4 1.8T before the Mk3... *tu*

no, force to be reckoned with, meaning: don't f#ck with it. It may not have the low end torque of the 8v but is has top end power covered well :bigup:
 
Dub1 said:
no, force to be reckoned with, meaning: don't f#ck with it. It may not have the low end torque of the 8v but is has top end power covered well :bigup:
well, if you wanna say don't mess with it; you'd have to say:" NOT to be reckoned with" ;)
 
fredobd said:
well, if you wanna say don't mess with it; you'd have to say:" NOT to be reckoned with" ;)

it can be said both ways, now's not the time for a grammar lesson ;) :laugh: as long as we're agreed *tu*
 
the mk4 GTI's in my opinion are not "real" GTI's the the rabbit 20th are "real GTI's" due to the fact you get the little extra such as recaro, rims, etc...
just like back in the days
 
Dub1 said:
as long as we're agreed
that would be "as long as we agree"! ppl can't be agreed! :laugh: ;) :p

Ok, ok... Sorry, it's friday pm and I just want to go home and play GT4!
 
RUBaDUBdub said:
the mk4 GTI's in my opinion are not "real" GTI's the the rabbit 20th are "real GTI's" due to the fact you get the little extra such as recaro, rims, etc...
just like back in the days
words of wisdom!!
 
that can be used but ppl can't be AGREED... things are.. not ppl.. ;)


And that was the last of my grammar lesson.. I'll stop now, sorry again.. Back to topic..
 
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