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hey everyone...i knwo these questionsa rent very popular and i really dunt mean to make myself appear lazy because i am not nd i have tried to do my research but didnt have much success.......so heres the deal.

i own a 2000 camry and i am planing to swap a 3sgte in it. i wanna buy the engine and tranny and make sum modifications b4 i put it in the car.

i wanna be able to raise the boost of the turbo abd add a noz kit without everything blowing up.

i want at least 300-350 hp and i kno this is possible and not that hard to do.

i also wanna do othe rmobs like exhast, headers, CAI, and also a small post and polish and head work and stuff like that.

plz help if u can i would really appreciate it andn try to leave out the comments. if u decide to rep[ly and dunt have sumin smrt to say and u relally really wanna say sumin then just leave the number of a shop i can contact, one that specilizes in internal tuning and such tings as mentioned above! thx
 
You'll need forged internals.

Might be able to get it off earlier engine years if they are compatible (ask on forums).

Might want to try asking if that engine can support 300-350hp STOCK.
 
diagnostic said:
why cant you put a cai on a turbo setup??
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FIRST! have you red the link i gave to you?

look at this picture... it tells you all

turbo2.jpg



If you still doesn't understand; a cold air intake (CAI) brings fresh air to the intake manifold. In a turbo setup piping from your turbo or intercooler bring air to the intake... that's the difference


take a look at this page... it explain really well how it works
http://www.cse.uconn.edu/~yelevich/turbo/turbo.html
 
pest007 said:
hey everyone...i knwo these questionsa rent very popular and i really dunt mean to make myself appear lazy because i am not nd i have tried to do my research but didnt have much success.......so heres the deal.

i own a 2000 camry and i am planing to swap a 3sgte in it. i wanna buy the engine and tranny and make sum modifications b4 i put it in the car.

i wanna be able to raise the boost of the turbo abd add a noz kit without everything blowing up.

i want at least 300-350 hp and i kno this is possible and not that hard to do.

i also wanna do othe rmobs like exhast, headers, CAI, and also a small post and polish and head work and stuff like that.

plz help if u can i would really appreciate it andn try to leave out the comments. if u decide to rep[ly and dunt have sumin smrt to say and u relally really wanna say sumin then just leave the number of a shop i can contact, one that specilizes in internal tuning and such tings as mentioned above! thx
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Is this a joke? Are you pretending to be illiterate or are you just 12 years old?

Assuming this is a serious post, you have a LOT of reading/studying/thinking to do before you start this little project of yours. First, find out how forced induction works. Some of your questions make it clear that you don't understand the basics. Second, find out how much boost a 3S-GTE can handle with stock internals. If you want 350 hp, you'll probably need forged internals. Third, figure out how in the world you plan to put 350 hp to the ground via your front wheels. You'll need to budget for an LSD...and even then, you may not have a very driveable car.

Finally, look at your answers to points 1-3 and come up with a realistic budget for the parts and labor. Add a generous margin for unexpected problems. Firgure at least 10 grand or so (minimum) to do it right. Now, think about whether the end result will be worth the effort. For example, it's worth remembering that people are importing R-32 Skyline GT-R's for around $15K or so. Will your Frankenstein Camry be worth the money you dump into it? Maybe you'll be better off selling it and buying something else.

Emre
 
labatt50 said:
FIRST! have you red the link i gave to you?

look at this picture... it tells you all

turbo2.jpg



If you still doesn't understand; a cold air intake (CAI) brings fresh air to the intake manifold. In a turbo setup piping from your turbo or intercooler bring air to the intake... that's the difference


take a look at this page... it explain really well how it works
http://www.cse.uconn.edu/~yelevich/turbo/turbo.html
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ya ya, i know that. but you still need to take air in at the turbo. whay cant you use a cai for that? the reason im asking why you say this, is because
my friend has a cai on a 1.8t.
 
labatt50 said:
FIRST! have you red the link i gave to you?

look at this picture... it tells you all

turbo2.jpg



If you still doesn't understand; a cold air intake (CAI) brings fresh air to the intake manifold. In a turbo setup piping from your turbo or intercooler bring air to the intake... that's the difference


take a look at this page... it explain really well how it works
http://www.cse.uconn.edu/~yelevich/turbo/turbo.html
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Intercooler is only used to cold the compressed air ...

Here how it's work ...

turbo-plumbing.gif
 
hey lan evo thx for that little coment but like i sed b4 i dunt need those comments so u must be the illiterate one....for those ppl who know me on this forum know im serious about my car so if u dunt have anything else to say plz dunt reply.....not all of us can aford and evo 8 so i mak do with what i have. everyone rices up civics and accords and stuff like taht(no insult intended) so by me trying to do sumin different doesnt make me a fool. thx for any help u tried to give me if it was any help at all. to everyone else who made the effort thx its appreciated.
 
go see SMP @ granby
he's a cool guy , if you have the money he's gonna make anything you want and make it go fast

EDIT : by the way , forget the head work for now , unless you have lot's of money to spend .. your engine probably has a nice design so porting it won't give THAT much power
i would never recommend porting on a relativly new head before mods like a better turbo/intercooler/exhaust/cams
 
200sxBoY said:
go see SMP @ granby
he's a cool guy , if you have the money he's gonna make anything you want and make it go fast

EDIT : by the way , forget the head work for now , unless you have lot's of money to spend .. your engine probably has a nice design so porting it won't give THAT much power
i would never recommend porting on a relativly new head before mods like a better turbo/intercooler/exhaust/cams
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Good post. Trying to do it too complicated will be too risky and expensive for nothing. A good old turbo'n'cam setup is always good. If you don't plan on beating NHRA records, you just need a little spice to light up everything and have fun. Personnally, my car does 115-120 hp and the same for torque. It's far from beeing a rocket, but it's a very light car that get nervous in the 90 to 130 kph range, with just enough power to play with the other civics/cavy's/jettas. So try to stay simple. A good "kick in the pants" is always enough, and you won't wasted thousands dollards on something that will give you 20-30 more ponies.
 
wow thx guys il check that out also....these are good coments that are gonna go towards a good project.....if any 1 else has anything to add aswel im listening.
 
labatt50 said:
FIRST! have you red the link i gave to you?

look at this picture... it tells you all

turbo2.jpg



If you still doesn't understand; a cold air intake (CAI) brings fresh air to the intake manifold. In a turbo setup piping from your turbo or intercooler bring air to the intake... that's the difference


take a look at this page... it explain really well how it works
http://www.cse.uconn.edu/~yelevich/turbo/turbo.html
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?????????????

Un CAI c'est impossible sur un moteur turbo?
Un header c'est impossible sur un moteur turbo?

I'm a friken wizard, I got a header on a turboed car.

What would you call header, an exhaust manifold that is made of bent tubing, then 80% of custom turboed cars got this.

Going to make a cai for my car too. :bigup:

This is a funny thread. :D

Seriously, go to a car specefic forum for specefic answors on what is the ''norm'' on your engin. :bigup:
 
mazda2002 said:
?????????????
I'm a friken wizard, I got a header on a turboed car.
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header on turbo car ; "turbo manifold" maybe? OR
I know an header on a turbo car can exist, like the camaro i saw that have the turbo just before the muffler but let stay in "standard" setup...

And for the "CAI in turbo car doesn't exist"; it's because when you are talking about a CAI 99% of the time we talk about N/A car.

N/A: Cold air intake = Cold air that goes to the intake manifold
Turbo: Cold air intake = Cold air that goes to the turbo intake

Notice the difference? Not the same thing but share the same name
 
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labatt50 said:
header on turbo car ; "turbo manifold" maybe? OR
I know an header on a turbo car can exist, like the camaro i saw that have the turbo just before the muffler but let stay in "standard" setup...

And for the "CAI in turbo car doesn't exist"; it's because when you are talking about a CAI 99% of the time we talk about N/A car.

N/A: Cold air intake = Cold air that goes to the intake manifold
Turbo: Cold air intake = Cold air that goes to the turbo intake

Notice the difference? Not the same thing but share the same name
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Header = a conduit (as an exhaust pipe for a many-cylindered engin) into which a number of smaller conduits open.
webster


so:
header=header
CAI=CAI

Just to get the vocabulary strait, CAI and headers on a turboed car ar real and commen.
 
mazda2002 said:
Just to get the vocabulary strait, CAI and headers on a turboed car ar real and commen
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Maybe they are commun for you, go everywhere and ask people, the word turbo manifold is way more use than header for describing a turbo application.

Go on ebay and write turbo header how many result? 60!
how many result for turbo manifold? 473?

Make a search om MontrealRacing.com for "turbo header"... 8 result
"turbo manifold"? 147

I guess its only a coincidence? No

Go to www.homemadeturbo.com and ask if you can install an header on a turbo car... you are gonna get flammed so back off with YOUR strait vocabulary. The guy that asked didn't have any idea how a turbocharge system work in a car that's why i was telling i'm a header would not fit in is application, but if he had asked for a turbo header i would have understand. So, I know what you mean and i hope you know what I mean.
 
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