Article: Hyundai Pony 86: 48 000 km, un proprio

Mayerz said:
Les premieres Omni avaient des 1.7L 8V VW, Simca ont acheté le design de la golf 1 a Giorgetto Giugiaro, d'ou la ressemblance. Ils ont modifiés les plans de la rabbit pour créer la omni, crois-moi pas si tu veux pas.
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je te crois car ca beaucoup de sens ton explication les differences sont quand meme importantes entre le golf/rabbit et la Horizon

pis ca expliquerait quand chrysler a vendu Simca a Peugeot que ceux ci aurait ramasse le moteur VW en meme temps et pourquoi le Horizon dans les annees 80 avait le choix entre un moteur peugeot pas ben ben populaire et le 2.2
 
I find it funny that most people who owned one say it was reliable while anyone who call it garbage do not seem to have any experience with it.

In my case it's one friend who told me he swore never to be caught dead in one... and ended up owning one that he got for 400$ and kept if for over 1 year without putting a cent in it.
 
CoolIT said:
I find it funny that most people who owned one say it was reliable while anyone who call it garbage do not seem to have any experience with it.
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I think this is a great little car, and a big part of Canadian History. It’s nostalgia, as many people do have fond memories with the car. It was Rear Wheel Drive as well!

It was the best selling car in Canada in 1984, beating Hyundai’s expectation of selling 5000 units; they sold 50,000 units.

This little car was a major stepping stone, and "creative" engineering by Hyundai to break into a market, they were never in, and doing it quickly; Ford Chassis, Ford Rear End, Mitsubishi Engine, and famous Italdesign Giugiaro designer.

Those who bought these cars new, and did maintain them, (and spent the $100 for rust proofing), got great service out of them. A lot got 200,000 to 300,000 KM out of this $6,000 car, which is amazing.

Did you know that the Pony was designed by the famous designer “Italdesign Giugiaro”.

The 1974 Pony Coupe Prototype Italdesign Giugiaro
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Giugiaro was the Famous Designer of the first VW GTI, Hyundai Pony, Hyundai Pony Coupe, De Lorean DMC 12.

He's done a lot of hatchbacks and coupes in the past/present.

He’s also designed the following:
  • Maserati 3200 GT,
  • Subaru SVX,
  • Lexus GS300,
  • Alfa Romeo Alfasud Sprint,
  • VW Scirocco,
  • BMW M1,
  • 72 Maserati Merak,
  • 2006 BMW Mini ,
  • Maserati MC12,
  • Lamborghini Gallardo
  • 70’s VW GTI
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The 1974 Hyundai Pony Coupe Prototype was Giugiaro’s inspiration for the De Lorean DMC 12.

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The Pony coupe was never produced as Hyundai knew they wouldn't sell well, being such a new company.

If you look at it, being their first car they manufactured on their own, departing from building cars for Ford, it has historical value.
 
Biodégrader comme Nissan 240/Silvia

My door sills, doors, and rear arches rusted like crazy.
Motor was strong but the body went way to quickly.

80/Early 90s Japense Cars + Salt = RUST :(

Mazda 3's + Salt = RUST

BMW's rust a lot too. Door seams, trunk seams, sunroofs.. .eeeh.
 
Mayerz said:
Les premieres Omni avaient des 1.7L 8V VW, Simca ont acheté le design de la golf 1 a Giorgetto Giugiaro, d'ou la ressemblance. Ils ont modifiés les plans de la rabbit pour créer la omni, crois-moi pas si tu veux pas.
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Qui a copier qui? Voici un son de cloche différent.

Rabbit and Horizon: who copied who?

The Horizon was built as a replacement for the Simca 1100 (called the 1204 in the States, 1968 - 1972). The 1100 and its variants were made through 1985.
In the early 1970s, VW was having problems reproducing the success of the Beetle. Squarebacks were well received, but never performed as hoped. Vans and trucks had a limited market. All models were rear wheel drive and had air cooled engines.
VW then created a sharply styled hatchback, without a noisy air cooled engine. They used front wheel drive, rack and pinion steering, front disc brakes, a four speed, and a four cylinder engine on 13 inch tires. The car became a worldwide hit. By 1978, it and its new bretheren displaced all Beetle production in Germany.
The Simca 1100 was front wheel drive with a four cylinder engine, rack and pinion steering, optional front disc brakes, a four speed, a four cylinder engine (1.2L), and a hatchback. It came in four door, five door, and wagon versions. It spawned a mini camper, and pickup in Europe/North Africa. It looked like a rounded box with single headlights and side strip running from headlights to tail-lights on 13 inch tires. If you square the edges, you get ....(suprise!) a Horizon.
As to the engine, Chrysler had a long relationship with VW in Europe, and several old Chrysler designs from France and the U.K. ended up as VWs in South America. (The last Avenger was sold to VW by Peugeot in 1981 and was sold through the 1980s in Brazil.) When the car was finally approved for North America, they had problems legalizing the European Chrysler engines. None had been imported to the U.S. since 1973, and the all-new engines were not ready yet. Chrysler could have used their European 1.6, if they had not been selling their profitable European operations to Peugeot to get cash to cover losses in the States.
Enter VW, with an excess of legalized engines. Chrysler fit its own manifold and carburetor to buy time. After Chrysler finalized the deal in Europe, Peugeot supplied the 1.6 to Chrysler as part of the deal. A year later, the 2.2 was ready. The 1.8 version of the 2.2 was never built.
The public assumed Chrysler was copying VW outright. It's hard to redesign your model when someone has copied it, and Chrysler didn't say otherwise. Car magazines wrote that the Omni used a Peugeot engine when writing about the 1.6 - technically true, but it was really a Chrysler Europe design!
The comparison actually helped their sales by implying the cars’ purpose in life to the right audience. To detail the lineage of the Horizon/Omni would have highlighted the failure of the Simca 1204 and the bungling of senior management [and brought up the [poor quality of the 1204]. Even Consumers Report insinuates it in their 1978 report. Of course, they could have checked their own 1968 import test where the Simca 1204 GLS defeated the VW Squareback, Opel Kadett, and Toyota Corolla.
The Horizon was a success worldwide, in spite of its makers. Peugeot did not want to evolve the model, and Chrysler saw it as a temporary entry level car. It still ran for 7 years (1978-1985) in Europe and 12 (1978-1990) in North America. It was roomier, bigger, and in some versions more economical than the Rabbit. The European Horizon had flush headlights, different interior treatments, a turbo version, a diesel version, and a GTI/GLS. The Horizon did not change drastically over its run, and the body especially was never revamped for the reasons stated above. So why does a 1983 Rabbit/Golf/Polo look more like a 1978 or 1982 Horizon than a 1975 Rabbit? If the Horizon had been a copy, shouldn't it be the other way around?
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Ça vient de George Yost, de ce site: http://www.allpar.com/model/horizon.html

C'est pourtant vrai que Simca avait un petit Hatchback FWD quand Volkswagen essayait encore de prolonger la vie de ses "tout-à-l'arrière"...

Simca 1100 1968:

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C'est sûr, c'est pas un body Giugiaro, mais on s'entends que ça se rapproche en maudit.

La Omni était juste une évolution de cette voiture, alors que la Rabbit (née autours de 1974), était un tout nouveau modèle...
 
Pour moi c'est une voiture de collection ,j'en n'es 3 (2 stock et 1modifié pour le drift)pis pour moi ca na pas de prix
 
Ri0uXx said:
Ou je travail ils ont gardé dans un garage un hyundai pony 1986


il a 48 000 km, un proprio et il est serré depuis 1994.:D

il est vraiment comme neuf.

( on voit pas sa tous les jours )

il a été repeint mais la peinture était défraichit mais sans rouille évidemment.

ps : il n'est pas a vendre , sa n'a pas vraiment de valeur de collection

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Nice!!! lol

C'est ca que mes parents avait quand j'ai appris à conduire. RDW baby!!! lol

Mon père la remplacé par une Golf GL en 1994. :D
 
:D ma tante en a eu une pendant plusieurs années quand j'étais un kid ! Un vrai tank! Mais la rouille la tué ! Je me rappel que je voyais l'asphalte a travers le plancher dans ces dernières année avant qu'elle s'en aille a la scrap! RWD ! :D
 
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