Discus Thread : Audi A4 B6 1.8T vs Vw Golf GTI 1.8T .

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so here we go , there is no hate , nothing . i love 2 cars and i would like to get one of 2 one day , BUT my question is :

i check some prices for this 2 cars and i srsly dont get it one stuff .

Audi -- 4 door , alot of space , Quattro = fun, full equiped with everything possible .
GTI -- 2 door , nothing special inside except gti sport seats . FWD ,,, that it !!

GTI 2 door with FWD weight ONLY 200kg less then A4 4 door + quattro .

so my question is : how come GTI cost same money as A4 b6 .

example A4 2002 5spd -- around 5500$ 6k max .
GTI -- 5K-5500$.

:dunno:
IS there is something special in GTI that A4 dont have ?

Same as Jetta mk4 : GTI have everything the same as Jetta mk4 1.8t but cost 1/2 less then GTI .

Srsly Dont get it ?:dunno: only cuz its Rare model?
 
As a previous owner of a 1.8T GTI:

First off, the Jetta 1.8T does not cost half as much as a GTI 1.8T. In fact, I would say they are very close in price for the same condition/mileage/year.

As for the VW 1.8T and Audi 1.8T. I would venture a guess that they are both as reliable as the other. However, the Golf is the 3rd best selling car of all time (right behind the Ford F series and Toyota Corolla). That means parts (that it doesn't already share with Audi) are dirt cheap. Set of used headlights for $75, a bumper for $100, a whole door for $100...and the list goes on.

German luxury cars (Porsche excluded) depreciate far faster than any other car (aside British luxury cars). They have to in order to compensate for higher maintenance and parts costs over other cars. It's that simple, thats why both the VW and Audi cost the same today - It's what they are worth.

Go compare the MSRP of the Lexus IS300 and Audi A4 and their used prices on the market today. An IS300 sometimes goes for double the cost of an A4...because Lexus simply never breaks.

Hope I shed some light on the situation.
 
Get a GTI. You'll have more trouble with the A4.

Want my 337? It'll cost you double tho...
 
I've been trying to choose between cars like this for a while...and I know it's going to be a Quattro for me. I work on my cars myself so I don't give a shit about the costs...and parts prices have come down substantially in the past 2 years... + I'm really starting to hate FWD.
 
I've had both and would not trade my A4 back for a GTI. Love it and if you properly take care of it and don't beat it between every stop it's reliable.
 
a4 plus de trouble ??
La seule chose de plus qui a une mauvaise réputation c'est les bras de suspenssion. Une B7 oui les piece sont encore plus rare et un peu plus cher mais un B6 c'est plein pour pas cher. Un audi va moi tirer vu le poid et le quattro mais j'aime bien mieu une audi quand meme ;)
 
Avant de penser aux réparations, le premier facteur demeure le frame qui n'est pas du tout le même: berline 4 portes vs hatchback 2 portes, 2 styles très différents à mon avis. Pour moi le choix déterminant s'arrête à ce niveau.

Pour ce qui explique les prix qui se ressemblent, c'est aussi simple que la GTI est beaucoup plus en demande que la A4, donc sa valeur sur le marché reste relativement haute.

Deux très bonnes voitures en résumé, tout dépend de ce que tu veux en faire.
 
It's quite simple....

If you want a 2 door FWD car get the Gti.

If you want a 4 door sedan with AWD get the A4.

Also, lift up the cars and check condition, maybe the A4 has a nice shopping list of repairs hence the lower end price....
 
Baby Schu said:
It's quite simple....

If you want a 2 door FWD car get the Gti.

If you want a 4 door sedan with AWD get the A4.

Also, lift up the cars and check condition, maybe the A4 has a nice shopping list of repairs hence the lower end price....
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I'll second that because I have not seen a 2002 A4 for "around 5500$ 6k max" in my life that's in good condition.
 
I would like to point out that you are comparing a premium model to a entry level model of a different manufacturer.

Try comparing the GTI to an A4 that’s equipped with the sports package is a more balanced approach, just like comparing a 337 to a USP. That being said it’s fair to say that Audi parts are more expensive than VW, take for example the front suspension parts, you can overhaul everything minus the shock & spring for 230$ on the mk4 but on an Audi your are looking at $400 for just the control arms.

The better question is what do you really want and what you can really afford, if you want to score a cheap Audi chances are you will have to change lots of parts that were neglected and that adds up $$$ quick, on the other hand the same scenario can happen with the GTI except the parts are cheaper.
 
mk3_g60 said:
a4 plus de trouble ?? La seule chose de plus qui a une mauvaise réputation c'est les bras de suspenssion. Une B7 oui les piece sont encore plus rare et un peu plus cher mais un B6 c'est plein pour pas cher.
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Pour le kit complet de bras de suspension avant pour une B6; beaucoup de garages (pas tous heureusement) vont vendre ca autour de 1,000$-1,300$ JOBBER, et ca n'inclus pas le temps pour l'installer. Pis le jobber; c'est souvent a refaire aux 2 ans. Faut pas oublier que la Audi a une suspension a bras multiples a l'arrière aussi! C'est beaucoup plus rare qu'on touche aux bras arrières, mais ca arrive quand-meme.

Changer un bearing de roue sur une Audi; c'est pas dutout le meme temps que sur une Golf... surtout en arrière.

Les shocks sont très différents aussi et plus ''complexes'' a changer sur une Audi.

Les crémaillères de Audi, c'est pas rare qu'on en change.

Pour faire la timing-belt sur l'A4, il faut enlever/tasser le devant du char... pas sur la Golf.

Je pourrais continuer encore et encore...

Je travaille dans un garage principalement spécialisé en Audi/Volks... pis des Audi money-pit c'est pas rare malheureusement...
 
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