Targa Newfoundland and Tobacco

[cheezer]

"In the tenth running of this Canadian road rally, a team of Afghan war vets competed, along with a fire-breathing Viper ACR. Highlights included a spectacular crash into the ocean (no one was hurt), and a hurricane on the last day of competition."



http://www.speedtv.com/schedule/filter/date/2012-4-14

[speedway]

Merci pour L'info, je tombe toujours dessus par-hazzard et il n'y à jamais de reprise !!
Thanks

[240zgtr]

Shit , je l'ai manqué !
Ça serait bien d'avoir un thread sticky pour les horaires télé des courses autre que nascar et F1... genre DTM, WRC, australian v8 supercars et autres. Au pire des sites sur le net pour voir des reviews de qualité...

[cheezer]

Shit , je l'ai manqué !
Ça serait bien d'avoir un thread sticky pour les horaires télé des courses autre que nascar et F1... genre DTM, WRC, australian v8 supercars et autres. Au pire des sites sur le net pour voir des reviews de qualité...

For those that missed it I just found this : It is the "american" version of the show, not much difference, except for the accent of the narrator and a bit of dialogue.


http://www.targanewfoundland.com/new...e-streamed-de/


cheezer

[Black VW]

Shit , je l'ai manqué !
Ça serait bien d'avoir un thread sticky pour les horaires télé des courses autre que nascar et F1... genre DTM, WRC, australian v8 supercars et autres. Au pire des sites sur le net pour voir des reviews de qualité...

http://www.speedtv.com/schedule/

Ça m'a fait plaisir!

LOL

[240zgtr]

Merci bien mais je vois là aucun WRC ni DTM ....c'est pourquoi je suis PAS un fan de speed tv: manque de variété. Déjà chanceux qu'ils passent du australian v8 supercars! Je me console un peu avec ça mais faudrait que je fouille pour me trouver d'autres options sur le net....

Merci cheezer pour le link!

[RoAsT]

Cette voiture étais au aisa academy cette fin de semaine....

[BBQMAN]

Indeed , the owner was learning on how to tame the beast,.

[Black VW]

^^ Ouais! Maudite belle machine et un son à faire rêver. Très stable en virage et des freins ...pas ceux de 1968!!!

[akrallysport]

You can also watch the broadcast HERE (link found on targanewfoundland.com)

[Sebdavid]

Thanks a lot for that! I missed it on TV and quality of this video is great!

Got to put a full cage (and codriver) in the 'vette and do that event one day. Not this year, maybe the next?

EDIT

Not next year either. Just saw the entry fees. Gulp!

[BBQMAN]

I took this from another forum, it is retarded and scary.


Big Brother and the Targa Newfoundland



A hundred years ago, when I was in high school, I read George Orwell’s novel, Nineteen Eighty-Four. In 1949, when it was published, it was satire. Today, it’s reality.

That Big Brother is everywhere already, let there be no doubt. Take your own money out of your own bank account via a bank machine transaction and your picture is taken as you do it. Walk through your workplace at any hour of the day or night and somebody is likely watching you. Stroll across Nathan Phillips Square to the front door of Toronto City Hall or sit down to eat in the Food Court at the Square One shopping centre in Mississauga and you are being videotaped doing it.

I shudder to think about it.

But here’s something that’s worse.

As anybody who’s read the book knows, Winston Smith, the central character of Nineteen Eight-Four, worked in the Ministry of Truth. His job was to rewrite history. People and events that existed previously didn’t, after he got finished with them. Situations, circumstances, happenings – they all disappeared or were changed substantially when Winston Smith "revised" the public record.

That was the part that bothered me more than anything else.

The news today is that this revisionism is going on right under our noses. The government of this country is intent on rewriting history.

(I hasten to say that this has nothing to do with political parties. It doesn’t matter if the federal government is Liberal, Conservative or NDP because it is government itself that is guilty of this crime.)

And why do I sound so alarmist? Allow me to explain.

Once upon a time in this world, tobacco companies could advertise. They can’t do that any more – at least in Canada. Although I find this abhorrent (if governments had any guts, which they don’t, they’d declare tobacco illegal and be done with it), it is the law.

The Targa Newfoundland is a car rally held every September. This year’s event starts Sept. 8 and goes until the 15th. The people who enter are in it for the glory; there’s no prize money. Just medallions and trophies – and bragging rights. Our own Jim Kenzie, who was one of the Targa's founders, will be in it. There is little advertising on the cars and certainly no tobacco sponsorships, which are, after all, illegal. It’s essentially a bunch of people getting together for the enjoyment of motor sport.

Last year, you will recall, there was a mishap. Driver Zahir Rana lost control of his Ferrari and it went into the ocean. He got out but – oh, the horror! – he was photographed looking at his million-dollar car in the water and he was wearing a red Ferrari driving suit that had the word MARLBORO on it. (Watch the video here.)

(You already know where this is going, don’t you?)

Now, Rana was not sponsored by Marlboro. He said later that he had purchased the suit at a charity auction and it had been worn by Rubens Barrichello when he drove for Ferrari.

When Barrichello drove for the Scuderia, it was sponsored by Philip Morris and it was legal to advertise cigarettes. Rana bought himself a souvenir of that time in racing history. Nothing more.

Somewhere along the line, somebody in Health Canada’s Tobacco Enforcement Office saw the photograph and the video of Zahir Rana wearing that uniform.

Oh-oh. You think we have a problem with guns in this country? That, apparently, pales in significance when compared to the crime committed by Zahir Rana last year when he drove his Ferrari into the Atlantic while wearing a souvenir racing uniform from a bygone era.

In recent weeks, Targa president Bob Giannou has received telephone calls and a letter from a Health Canada official to inform him "of currrent prohibitions regarding the promotion of tobacco products."

The letter goes on to say that you can’t promote tobacco products, which is something Mr. Giannou already knows.

But what that letter really said is this: Any reference to tobacco products whatsoever, even if the reference is historical, is not allowed.

Which means that, over time, threats like this from your government will ensure that any and all references to tobacco, by word or by photograph, will vanish from recorded Canadian history.

Winston Smith is alive and well and working in Ottawa for Health Canada.

Welcome to Nineteen Eight-Four — and you thought it was 2012.

[Arsenic33]

OMG... ridicule!

[FifthGear]

I'm not sure this is such a big deal to be honest.

Advertising is advertising, and the Targa gets lots of coverage. Rana is perfectly entitled and protected to have purchased it, continue to own it, and surely wear it wherever he likes -- except, once you agree to be a participant in a high-profile event like the Targa, you can run into trouble depending on how knit-picky someone wants to be.

Sure I think it's dumb, but hardly a 1984 scenario.

As far the whole 1984 stuff goes, big brother hardly needed to lift a finger. We've given it all away in exchange for "free" stuff and other "conveniences".

[FifthGear]

EDIT

Not next year either. Just saw the entry fees. Gulp!

I was seriously thinking of looking into it. Is it that bad?

This is what we'll need Seb!

(october 14, 2010)
50% OFF YOUR ENTRY FEE DRAW

To our valued competitors,
I would like to take this opportunity to thank-you for your past support and if you are thinking about competing at Targa for the first time encourage you to get it off your bucket list!
We are very excited to offer you all a great opportunity to receive a fifty percent saving on your 2011 entry fee. All you have to do is be one of the first forty to register for the 10th anniversary event Sept 10-17 and you will automatically qualify to be entered into a draw that will see one competitor receive a 50% discount on their 2011 entry fee.
Email andrea@targanewfoundland.com for your application today!

Is it $6k the entry?

[Sebdavid]

Maybe I'm thick, but I don't see how the author (what's the source?) goes from "Targa president receives letter and phone calls from Health Canada official" (who probably thought Targa drivers were professionals and sponsored to display brands, as some of them indeed are) "to inform him of tobacco advertising prohibitions" to "Health Canada will erase tobacco sponsorship from any historical picture and thus rewrite history".

There wasn't a mention of Health Canada imposing a fine or threatening to cancel the event... Am I missing something? From what I gather from the Tobacco Act itself ("no person may display a tobacco product-related brand element or the name of a tobacco manufacturer in a promotion that is used, directly or indirectly, in the sponsorship of a person, entity, event, or permanent facility."), you can actually display a tobacco brand as long as they are not actually sponsoring you or the event. I mean, I'm totally against big government controlling our lives, but this seems like a very minor inconvenience to me, not a step towards an Orwellian society. Definitely a waste of taxpayer dollar, but not nearly the most blatant one I've seen!

A better question would be: would a Canadian channel be allowed to broadcast replays of historical Grand Prix with tobacco sponsorship on the cars? I'm really curious as to the answer. I think it would be a yes unless the broadcaster was getting paid by the tobacco company, but not sure. Anyone?

[Sebdavid]

Is it $6k the entry?

Yup. One day...

[cheezer]

Here is the news item from CBC :

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfou...bacco-act.html


I have a theory that it may have been a complaint lodged by a private citizen. In that case, Health Canada must act, or at least seem to act, on the complaint.

Just like any rally, there are citizens who do not like the inconvenience of closed roads, etc. It may be that some person is looking for any excuse to hamper the race.

cheezer

By the way, it has been 1984 for many years now ........

[ek9jo]

l entree c est 5700$, mais ca inclut tout les repas de la semaine et les endroits pour dormir plus les assurances car les autos roulent sur des sections de route non-chronometre,etc. mais j avoue que c est quand meme cher

[Zathan]

Maybe I'm thick, but I don't see how the author (what's the source?) goes from "Targa president receives letter and phone calls from Health Canada official" (who probably thought Targa drivers were professionals and sponsored to display brands, as some of them indeed are) "to inform him of tobacco advertising prohibitions" to "Health Canada will erase tobacco sponsorship from any historical picture and thus rewrite history".

There wasn't a mention of Health Canada imposing a fine or threatening to cancel the event... Am I missing something? From what I gather from the Tobacco Act itself ("no person may display a tobacco product-related brand element or the name of a tobacco manufacturer in a promotion that is used, directly or indirectly, in the sponsorship of a person, entity, event, or permanent facility."), you can actually display a tobacco brand as long as they are not actually sponsoring you or the event. I mean, I'm totally against big government controlling our lives, but this seems like a very minor inconvenience to me, not a step towards an Orwellian society. Definitely a waste of taxpayer dollar, but not nearly the most blatant one I've seen!

A better question would be: would a Canadian channel be allowed to broadcast replays of historical Grand Prix with tobacco sponsorship on the cars? I'm really curious as to the answer. I think it would be a yes unless the broadcaster was getting paid by the tobacco company, but not sure. Anyone?

The people from the Gilles Villeneuve museum actualy got fined for displaying photos of Gilles with obviously tobacco sponsorhips. Same for the Montreal GP who had old photos ont the walls of their office and they had to take them down and modify them to remove the tobacco logos.