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Alors dit moi pkoi la Challenger se vend vraiment bcq plus chere quune Charger SRT-8?
2010 Chevy Camaro SS
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Alors dit moi pkoi la Challenger se vend vraiment bcq plus chere quune Charger SRT-8?
M85Iroc-Z
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20InchChrome
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not when ford comes out with the ecoboost mustangs
black98gtstang
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It takes ford a supercharger to be even wtih a gm na car,you houuu ford wake up tab...
the ford mustang looks better but as always (except from 85 to 92) gm will be faster....
the ford mustang looks better but as always (except from 85 to 92) gm will be faster....
subyguy
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well up until the new shelby 5.4 supercharged the motor used was a 4.6 and a 4.6 32v supercharged and chevy had a 5.7 na. personally i would take any mustang over any gm except the 69 camaro and the corvettes all years.
it took GM all these years to finally produce 300hp on a v6 when the japs and euro been doing that forever. its not something to be proud of in my opinion.
personally i would take a shelby over the camaro,alot more fun and agressive looking
it took GM all these years to finally produce 300hp on a v6 when the japs and euro been doing that forever. its not something to be proud of in my opinion.
personally i would take a shelby over the camaro,alot more fun and agressive looking
20InchChrome
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what 300hp V6 engines have the Japanese been making "forever"? Please enlighten me.
Gregster
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Fords entire "ecoboost" marketing is lame... Turbo technology isn't anything new. The Japanese and Europeans have been boosting small displacement motors for years...
Regardless the engine will still producethe same HP and torque curves so your argument isn't relevant. Even if Ford put a 300hp Ecoboost 2.3L 4 banger in the Mustang it would have to shed some weight.
Cars are too heavy today. There is no reason why the Camaro needs to weigh 3800lbs and the Charger 4000+
darkestfenix
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x2...
What the heck are you talking about?
Japs had 300hp out of V6 or inline 6 twin turbos not N/A. So please STFU. Please name me another car that produces 300hp out of N/A V6 or I6....
Gregster
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NSX had close to 300hp N/A when it came out.
BMW got between 315-340hp from either a 3.4 or 3.8L I6 in the E34 M5
The Europeans do it better.
GD 427
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Parlant de l'eco boost... désolé pour les haters mais c'est un crisse de bon moteur selon moi... v6 twin turbo injection directe qui va consommer deux fois moins qu'un v8 à 300 hp... dites ce que vous voulez mais moi j'déteste pas ça du tout. J'ai vraiment hâte de voir ce que ça va donner. ( Mais j'suis prêt à sacrifier quelques dollars pour garder le son d'un v8 haha )
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subyguy
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guys please im not trying to start an american vs jap story here, io wn'd an sti and own a ram air trans am so i am not leaning towards one side or the other.
ok most japs had turbos but what about the TL engine its not quite 300 but close, the 350Z etc
not to mention all the 4cyl turbo engines
im not trying to say its crap but its not anything speacial if you ask me.
the 3 american companies are hemoraging money out of there asses and there solution is to bring back gas guzzlers, sure they appeal to alot of people but they will not hold up the company.
all i am saying is that i find GM cars cheap, my ram air has almost the same interior as a sunfire but cost $50G's brand new. other than the corvette what other car does GM has that is even worth comparing to its japanese counterpart.
at least the mustang has been around forever and has been racking in profits.
why did GM stop producing the firebird and camaro huh? remember the 6.6 400ci motor with barely 200hp, please....
so before you tell me to STFU in true fanboy fashion please take a second to understand what i am saying and do a little research
ok most japs had turbos but what about the TL engine its not quite 300 but close, the 350Z etc
not to mention all the 4cyl turbo engines
im not trying to say its crap but its not anything speacial if you ask me.
the 3 american companies are hemoraging money out of there asses and there solution is to bring back gas guzzlers, sure they appeal to alot of people but they will not hold up the company.
all i am saying is that i find GM cars cheap, my ram air has almost the same interior as a sunfire but cost $50G's brand new. other than the corvette what other car does GM has that is even worth comparing to its japanese counterpart.
at least the mustang has been around forever and has been racking in profits.
why did GM stop producing the firebird and camaro huh? remember the 6.6 400ci motor with barely 200hp, please....
so before you tell me to STFU in true fanboy fashion please take a second to understand what i am saying and do a little research
VWSpeed
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NSX had close to 300hp N/A when it came out.
BMW got between 315-340hp from either a 3.4 or 3.8L I6 in the E34 M5
The Euro E34 M5 engine is probably the best inline 6 I have ever driven.
You are absolutely correct, Europeans do it better but BMW is top notch on engine power. They never make false claims, even with lower HP ratings their engines pull stronger than anyone elses.
There is no better engine-tranny setup than BMW.
GD 427
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Et pour ceux qui disent que c'est des vieilles nouvelles et des vieilles photos... d'apres moi, seules les photos de la RS étaient sorties... j'suis pas certain mais moi c'est les premières photos de la SS que je vois alors merci pour le thread! ( Par contre je suis décu, à moins que ça soit un photoshop d'un RS, j'trouve plate que GM ne se soit pas forcé côté roues et apparence de SS)
Sur le site de DODGE
Challenger SRT-8 - 45995.00$
Charger SRT-8 - 46395.00
La Challenger se vend plus cher simplement pcq dans ce monde, tout le monde veut se faire du $$$ rapidement et facilement.
Y se dise 500 produite en 2008 sa se paye. Exactement comme la GT-R.
Le seul hic...s'est que même si le gars il l'achete 15000$ de plus que ce que ca vaut, quand y sors dla cous du dealer ca vaut moins que 45000$.
Qui l'achete a 60000$, dans deux ans ca va se vendre moins de 35000$
theoutsider
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Vqs for instance...
M85Iroc-Z
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wow, and the 5 year old has made his typical comment
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