Our Geothermal Installation, now with more pics then scirocco16valve! (in progress)

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We've begun the Geothermal retrofit on our house after a long period of time, after getting our CGC certification. If you want more information you can view our site at http://www.geothermalquebec.com, I just wanted to post some pictures of it in progress.

I was originally supposed to document it in a HD video, but it's been so busy here I have not had the time. I'm just taken some pics on my Iphone.
Day 1:
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I dig a few trenches in some spots so that the overflow of water from the ground will not spill into the streets. the water is only allowed to be dispersed on our land. It cannot be transported anywhere else, and boy! was there a lot of water!

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The drill behind the truck. it's drilling 2 holes of 6 inch diameter 350 feet underground, through 50 feet of dirt, then rock. the drill is a rotary bit with a pneumatic hammer.

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The truck still on the first hole, 5 hours into the drill.

Day 2:
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after 2 days of drilling, the tops are capped temporaraly. I had erected some planks to prevent the slurry from going into the street.

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the slurry drying up to lose all its water weight and be distributed. THis took forever to dry out.

Day 3:
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Putting the pipe into the ground. the top 50 feet is surrounded by a steel pipe to prevent it from collapsing. 3 pipes are fed in. 2 which are connected at the bottom, for coolant to flow to the bottom and back up, and a third pipe to fill the hole with a hardening solution as we pull it back out.


Day 4:
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the mixer for the geothermal grout and cement.it feeds the mix into the pipe and forces it out the bottom, as we pull it out.
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Day 5:
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delivery of our geothermal pumps. here is our old heat pump prepped and ready for removal.

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here is our new tranquility 27 geothermal pump. It weighs like 400-450 pounds and I was at the bottom end taking it down the stairs. i was covered in sweat it felt like i just got out of the pool.

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The flashcart we will use to prime the piping, then fill it with coolant. Itw will take a day to fill the entire piping.

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THAT"s how heavy the pump was. it bent the frame on the trolley!


Day 6:
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Trenching. we have to start connecting the pipe together now.

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a lot more trenching then i thought required.

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I had to leave for the day, but when i got back 8 hours later, it was all connected and plugged into the house.

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the new heatpump connected. We've bought another hot water tank to preheat the water feeding into the main tank. that should save us about 400$ a year in hot water alone. it still needs to be fitted in.

edit: someone thought the total saving is 400$ a year. that is not the case, 400$ is saving of HEATING YOUR WATER in the summer. energy from the house is dispersed into your preheat water tank. so the water getting into your water tank is not 10degrees, it's 90 degrees. it uses less energy to make 90 degrees into 110 then it does to raise it from 10! this is just a benefit of having a geothermal install. it's for the heating and cooling of the house! other benafits are heated pool, heated floors, heated driveway, etc...


this is where we are now. I cant wait till its hooked up and we finally have air conditioning in this house/oven!
 
1) Your neighbours must love you
2) This must cost more than the value of all the cars on MR combined, x2...
 
j'entendais quelqu'un en parler dans le train l'autre jour et il disait que ça allait lui prendre 10 ans à revenir dans son argent

mais l'économie était réelle, hydro l'a appelé pour demander s'il vivait encore dans la maison car la facture mensuelle avait été coupée en 2
 
pics dont work
I had a misspelling in the BBcode, I copied an pasted it, fixed it 2 sec after, but apperantly not fast enough.

Wow Mo...you failed at pics. This is a sad day for MR
everyone fails.

1) Your neighbours must love you
2) This must cost more than the value of all the cars on MR combined, x2...
yes they love it, they keep on coming over to see how its going. my dad is always out talking to someone.

yes its expensive, but it recoups its cost FAST.

So if it saves 400$/y, how long is the payback time?
dude. the hot water ALONE saves is 400$. that's just a byproduct of the installation. geothermal saves you up to 70% of your heating+free A/c.

granted, 70% is in optimal conditions, and ours is far from optimal. we're expecting 55-65% in savings.

j'entendais quelqu'un en parler dans le train l'autre jour et il disait que ça allait lui prendre 10 ans à revenir dans son argent

mais l'économie était réelle, hydro l'a appelé pour demander s'il vivait encore dans la maison car la facture mensuelle avait été coupée en 2

10 years? yes, thats without taking into the fact you need another install anyways, and without factoring savings, and depreciation of your equipment, and most of all: the grants!.

the difference will be paid off in 3-4 years, and the entire machine will be paid off in 10.

whereas you will ALWAYS be paying for the electric heat pump.
 
I was thinking more along the line of having bigass drilling machine going through bedrock all day :p

oh that! :p it was louder at other locations. at our place the only sound was the motor and compressor. you could hear it inside my house but it wasn't too bad., but it was loud as hell outside.
 
How much was the total cost of install and how many hp does the pumps or compressors draw?

geothermal systems are expensive. Most are in the 25-35k range. since it uses the power of the sun that is stored in the ground, for every 1unit of hydro you use, you get 4 to 4.5 units of heat, where a conventional heat pump runs on a 1:1 scale.

they are expensive, but the drilling alone costs just over 11k.

It's an investment, one that you will end up making money off in the end.
 
It's not using the energy from the center "noyau" of the earth???


nonono :p that's an industrial use.

for a home use, 8 feet underground the temperature is the same year-round.

we send coolant from our house at 0 degrees. when it goes into the ground, it's 0 degrees. when it gets back to the pump 1500 feet later, it's the same temperature as the ground, which is 13 degrees (don't quote me on that, my dad has the exact figures, I will get them tomorrow, he's gone to bed for the night) the pump strips that liquid temperature, exchanges temperature from liquid to gas, then sends that into the ducting of the house.

very little power is used.

you can get over 9000$ in grants from the government and hydro Quebec. Why? because your house is using renewable energy, and the electricity hydro Quebec is sending you can be sold to Ontario for a lot more profit!
 
nonono :p that's an industrial use.

for a home use, 8 feet underground the temperature is the same year-round.

we send coolant from our house at 0 degrees. when it goes into the ground, it's 0 degrees. when it gets back to the pump 1500 feet later, it's the same temperature as the ground, which is 13 degrees (don't quote me on that, my dad has the exact figures, I will get them tomorrow, he's gone to bed for the night) the pump strips that liquid temperature, exchanges temperature from liquid to gas, then sends that into the ducting of the house.

very little power is used.

you can get over 9000$ in grants from the government and hydro Quebec. Why? because your house is using renewable energy, and the electricity hydro Quebec is sending you can be sold to Ontario for a lot more profit!

Ok thanks

btw you have a nice way to introduce subtly publicity in your post :D
 
Très belle installation! J'ai ai ''designé'' quelques unes lors de mon DEC, le payback est d'environ 10 ans, ce qui coûte le plus chère c'est de faire creuser les puits, ca peut facilement monter a 20 000$ par puit et tu peux en avoir 3-4 pour de grosses maisons de westmount! Mais en bout de ligne t'es gagnant et les pièces ne sont pas vraiment plus dispendieuse qu'un système de climatisation ''normal''
 
wow thats huge!! ive been following geo-thermo energy for a while now and considering it for a new construction project
 
can you really receive 9k in grants? i heard it was more along 2k

i also find it funny hydro quebec giving incentives when in the long run, they are losing potential business as more people across canada are going green
 
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