No new cures for any diseases since the 1960s?

lord_galathon

lord_galathon

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I've been reading up a bit on the pharmaceutical industry as well as watching some documentaries like the one about that doctor in the US who can cure certain types of cancer but has been challenged several times by the FDA and big pharma companies. I've researched this a lot and for some reason I can't find any new cures for any diseases that have been "discovered" and released to the public since the late 1960s.

The only exception was the discovery that stomach ulcers are actually caused by a bacterial infection (Elicobacter something...) and can be cured with antibiotics.

The general assumption is that the reason for this is because we test more and better on humans before releasing any new medicine, but then you think 40 years? That's a really long test, consider all the people who are forced to continue taking regular medication every day to keep their Diabetes in check (example) or any other condition they might have.

Also consider how much the makers of Insulin, blood/glucose testing machines and accessories, and other Diabetes medications would LOSE, if someone came up tomorrow morning with a "Diabetes shot" that would boost the pancreatic performance or simply restore it to its normal capacity.

Think about it, and discuss, or should I say disgust...

To assist, here are a few links of reading material:

http://www.naturalnews.com/028623_health_care_America.html

http://www.whale.to/a/fear_dis.html

My take on all this is simple, I think that with something as readily available and informative as the Internet, and if used correctly, we won't really need actual MDs for much longer in our history of humanity. I have a strong feeling that we are heading towards an "era" of self healing, self medication, much like the hippie generation had, only with better, more modern technology, and mostly, a better reference book known as Google.
 
lord_galathon said:
My take on all this is simple, I think that with something as readily available and informative as the Internet, and if used correctly, we won't really need actual MDs for much longer in our history of humanity. I have a strong feeling that we are heading towards an "era" of self healing, self medication, much like the hippie generation had, only with better, more modern technology, and mostly, a better reference book known as Google.
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I think you are seriously under-estimating the power of big coorporations to influence your Google search results.
 
Ask yourself, if a plumber could get away with saying I didn't find the problem maybe next time and each visit you pay him 100$ do you you really think he'll fix the problem even if he knows what/where it is while he's sitting on a cushy business practice.

Well the same thing for doctors and researchers. They get paid to try, not for results. If you want results 2 things have to change.

1) This money making scheme. If they find a natural cure they don't care because it's not patent-able. Not patent-able, not-profitable, they don't care.

2) Payment for results. The researching doctor should be paid minimum wage with a HUGE incentive for a working solution. Like I said right now they get paid big money for playing in the lab. There is no accountability. Sure if they really suck they'll get fired but enter in another mooch of a researcher. It's not ALL of them but I've heard some pretty ugly stories.
 
So simple, as a business would you rather:

-Sell one cure for 100$ once

or

-Sell medication for 5$ a week for life

Pretty much how it works. The FDA is so corrupt, so greedy, they have no morals and no interest in the well being of the population. All they want is $ and Power at th detriment of human lives.
 
What really kills me though is when they run telethons and other similar SCAMS to send money to cure cancer, aids or anything else.
 
Jack Andraka at TEDxSanJoseCAWomen

He developed a paper sensor that could detect pancreatic, ovarian and lung cancer in five minutes for as little as 3 cents. He conducted his research at John Hopkins University. This research could change the face of cancer and promote early detection. He has been selected as the Intel 2012 ISEF winner and has won awards at multiple national and international math competitions. Jack is on the national junior whitewater kayaking team and enjoys playing with his dog and folding origami.


 
^His research, like so many others will be chugged aside and bought out. My lady works in Biomedical Engineering, dude, they are years ahead of us. Big pharma doesn't want people to return to the roots, vitamins, a healthy diet, avoid GMO, exercise, they prefer to hit you up with Chemo at 40, make a couple million off of that, hook you up on diabetes meds for 10-15 years, make a couple millions on that. It's a gigantic industry. In private healthcare they dominate and influence the game, in Government run, they dominate and run the game just as much, if not more. They simple place their reps in our government. Heck, wasn't the head of transport (Hamadi) from big pharma?

It's been like that for 20-30 years. We aren't getting care anymore, we get a drug that we have to take everyday for the rest of our lives. I'm not saying vitamins cure cancer, I'm saying pharmacology isn't the solution to everything.
 
lord_galathon said:
My take on all this is simple, I think that with something as readily available and informative as the Internet, and if used correctly, we won't really need actual MDs for much longer in our history of humanity. I have a strong feeling that we are heading towards an "era" of self healing, self medication, much like the hippie generation had, only with better, more modern technology, and mostly, a better reference book known as Google.
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LOL then you don't have a simple a clue on how the human body is complicated. There is nothing that's comparable to the diagnostic and analysis of a Doctor, no technology, no google. There is a reason why they have to study many years and to continuously go to conferences, read books and follow their speciality.

I do agree with the others thought, that for most of big companies, making money is more important than human lives, so because of this, they don't make the effort to resolve the health problems that are around the world.
 
od_man99 said:
^His research, like so many others will be chugged aside and bought out. My lady works in Biomedical Engineering, dude, they are years ahead of us. Big pharma doesn't want people to return to the roots, vitamins, a healthy diet, avoid GMO, exercise, they prefer to hit you up with Chemo at 40, make a couple million off of that, hook you up on diabetes meds for 10-15 years, make a couple millions on that. It's a gigantic industry. In private healthcare they dominate and influence the game, in Government run, they dominate and run the game just as much, if not more. They simple place their reps in our government. Heck, wasn't the head of transport (Hamadi) from big pharma?

It's been like that for 20-30 years. We aren't getting care anymore, we get a drug that we have to take everyday for the rest of our lives. I'm not saying vitamins cure cancer, I'm saying pharmacology isn't the solution to everything.
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Bingo.

Doctors obviously make money for what meds they push as well; I don't remember where it was that I saw it, but there was a show/article on a US doctor who used to push pills from a big pharma company to the point where they would buy him vacations and such, and he had most of his patients regularly taking un-necessary medication.

My grandfather died at 57 when his doctor threatened to not see him anymore if he didn't take weight loss pills. He was slightly overweight, but the pills the doctor prescribed weren't meant to be mixed with the OTHER pills the same doctor had prescribed. Basically, just push push push and think later.

Imagine how many giant pharmaceutical corporations would go bankrupt if cancer was cured.

This is just like the hydrogen powered/electric car, but in another form. The technology and knowledge is clearly there, however hidden interests prevent any progress.
 
I'm not saying that there isn't magouille in big pharma, there probably is. But, there are researchers out there working their asses off for CURES for things like MS, certain cancers etc.

Life expectancy has gone up by at least a decade since the 60's guys... that's no easy feat in a period of 50 years or so.

PS I hope it never happens to any of you, but if a family member of yours develops any type of cancer threatening their life, I'm sure you'll be glad you have modern medical science and treatments there to help you.

Take care of yourselves, live healthy, but trust me guys, when you really need it, when things are fucked up with your body, modern medicine is fucking incredible and there are amazing doctors out there who don't give a flying fuck about money, they really want to do good.

DOUBLE PS: http://www.naturalnews.com/028623_health_care_America.html <-- some of the information in this link is blatantly false, this is a bullshit source of information guys, anyone with a background in actual fucking SCIENCE will agree with me, These guys on this site cherry pick studies to make the world seem like a scary place where everyone's out to get'ya... DONT GET THAT VACCINE YOU MIGHT DIE!!!! TAKE THESE VITAMINS I SELL ON MY WEBSITE INSTEAD.

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/06/10/naturalnewscom-slimes-breast-cancer-rese/
 
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rollingsound said:
I'm not saying that there isn't magouille in big pharma, there probably is. But, there are researchers out there working their asses off for CURES for things like MS, certain cancers etc.

Life expectancy has gone up by at least a decade since the 60's guys... that's no easy feat in a period of 50 years or so.

PS I hope it never happens to any of you, but if a family member of yours develops any type of cancer threatening their life, I'm sure you'll be glad you have modern medical science and treatments there to help you.

Take care of yourselves, live healthy, but trust me guys, when you really need it, when things are fucked up with your body, modern medicine is fucking incredible and their are amazing doctors out there who don't give a flying fuck about money, they really want to do good.
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Of course, I agree with you in so many ways. I definitely believe that modern medicine and medical research are a blessing that we are lucky to have in many ways, and we have 100% come a long way. I have family members in the cancer field and there is endless effort on the parts of so many to make a difference.

That being said, I honestly do think that like any large scale corporation, big pharmaceutical companies are basically only in it for the money. If you look at all the questionable drugs being pushed out there, it's disgusting to say the least.
 
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