Une fraude par internet?!

davidlabbe998

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salut, j'écrits pas vraiment souvent mais je vous lis plus ou moins a tout les jours, c'est jusque quand j'ai rien a dire je dis rien. (pas comme certain vous me direz!:p)

Pour vous mettre en situation, j'ai mis mon auto en vente sur le fameux Kijiji.

J'ai reçu un message texte le soir même avec l'indicatif régional du 518 (NY): hello is your Car still up for sale? mail me ....

Je lui réponds que oui il est encore a vendre et voici ce qu'il m'envoie en réponse : Thanks for your mail..... I will need to confirm the full asking price.. I would have loved to come and view it personally and pay cash but, due to nature of my job i will not be able to come for inspection,am a very busy type as i work long hours everyday,i have gone through your advertisement and i am satisfied with it.

As for the payment..i will be paying you via the fastest and secure way to pay online(PayPal).

I have a private courier agent that will come for the pick up after the payment have been made ... So no shipping included... My private courier agent will come for the pick up and sign all necessary documents on my behalf after the payment have been made, as they will also be coming with all the information needed, my details and transferring the name of ownership to me will be done by the pick up agent so you don't have to worry about that...

You can now send me your PayPal email so I can pay in right away and also include your address in your reply.If you don't have a paypal account, you can easily set up one...log on to www.paypal.com and sign up. its very easy.I await your reply asap."

NB.. pls get the ad off the internet or mark it as sold as i am really keen about the purchase.

P.S. Pls ignore any similar emails or texts and deal with me directly

Best regards



Trouvant cela louche, je lui réponds quand pourrait-effectuer le paiement et le Pick up de la voiture.

Sa réponse :payPal is my best payment option cos Its reliable and easy to use PayPal. I insisted on PayPal because i don't have access to my bank account online as i don't have internet banking, but i can pay from my PayPal account, as i have my bank a/c attached to it... You can get the setup registration www.paypal.com.ca email me your PayPal email account.. for example my own PayPal email account is **** You email me yours asap.. Thanks !!

Don't worry about the pick up,my shipping agent will be coming to pick it up as soon the money had been credited into your account . I'll like you to send me your address so that my shipping agent can figure it out and come for the pick up and other necessary things....more so,send me your PayPal details(PayPal email) so i can pay in.

Await your response.

On réussi a s'entendre, qu'il va commencer c'est démarche auprès de Paypal, bla bla bla, puis avant de me coucher je reçois :
I need to inform you about a slight change with the pick up arrangements received an email from my pick agent he said he won't come for the pick up unless i pay him the agent commission fee first in order to be able to schedule a pick up time and date, the Courier Agency Head Quarters is in China and all commission payment made for pick up from anywhere in the world is sent to their Head Quarters and the only form of payment they accept is Western Union Money Transfer.

I will now include the $950.00 CAD they charged to pick it up and take it home (1st Class Cargo) to the payments i will send through PayPal..And PayPal will be informed about this process as well

After receiving the confirmation email from PayPal after i have made the payments to you and received the whole money, I will need you to send the $950.00 CAD to my pick up agent address via Western Union Money Transfer and will include an additional fee of $100 as western union charges when sending money.. the total amount that will be transferred was the deposit of $3,800+950+100 the total amount is $4,850.

The western union money transfer can be made at any post office or any western union outlet around you. I will be making the payments of $4,850.00 CAD to you shortly and will email you as soon as am done.

Get back to me As soon as possible


Ma question est, vous ne trouvez pas sa louche qu'il sois si intense que sa, quasiment trop insistant? et qui est-ce qu'il serait pret a donne pratiquement 5000$ pour un voiture que tu n'as pas vue en vrai et qui faut tu paye un chinois qui vient chercher l'auto 1000$?


Et pour terminer j'aimerais savoir si j'ai quelque chose a savoir sur Paypal en tant que vendeur? toujours utilisé cela en tant qu'acheteur.
 
Sa me semble pas mal compliqué pour une voiture... c'est quoi l'auto?


P.S : moi sa ferais longtemps que je lui aurait dis de sèché... Premier arrivé, premier servis
 
Es-ce une joke?

C'est clairement un scam lol, faut pas être vite vite pour le savoir...

arrête tes discussions avec ce gars là!
 
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c'est pas dur, quand le premier message commence par, est ce que la voiture est encore a vendre, et que l'annonce est la depuis une journée, si il serait bright un peu il appelerait, et quand il demande le dernier prix, quoique tu dise il va t'envoyer sa réponse déja toute écrite

mais si ils le font encore c,est que y'a encore des gens qui se font avoir, sélection naturelle?
 
Cest une arnaque. Je recoit exactement la même chose que toi sur lespacs en vendent mon char. Dit lui que tu va le rapporté a la police et tu va voir il t'écrira pue.

Envoyé depuis mon SGH-I717R avec Tapatalk
 
My god sérieusement...Comment le monde peut encore se faire pogner avec des messages sketch comme ca en 2012...
 
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Plus de réponse après ca...c'est bizarre hein!
 
I got the same thing. Just ask for a Deposit of 25% to know the transaction is legit. Make sure they send it as a Gift so you do not pay 3 percent, automatic win in dispute :)/ just email the guy a e-book that you created on word and take a screenshot if Paypal starts to ask questions.
Like a boss.
 
Dude... pose toi pas de questions!
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David
Oct 1 (11 days ago)

to James
Hello,
Yes, I would like to see it.
Let me know how we can arrange this.
Thanks
D


James Morgan
Oct 2 (10 days ago)

to me
Hello,

It has an clear title, it is certified and e-tested,a perfect vehicle. The problem is that I am currently in VA on a busniess trip and the car is here with me. I wish to conclude the transaction through eBay motors, Business Purchase Protection for both of us to be protected. you’ll have a 5 days inspection period, while you can test drive and inspect the vehicle, you can even take it to an independent mechanic for inspection. So this won’t be a sight unseen deal for you. .If you are interested please let me know and I will explain the entire process.


Thanks


David
Oct 2 (10 days ago)

to James
No. Sorry. This is not acceptable for me.
Good luck with your sale.


 
Faut pas être reveiller ben ben pour penser que c'est legit.

Jamais entendu parler des chummy de la cote d'ivoire (Mega operation de scam sur lespacs il y a deux ans)
 
dis lui de t'envoyer l'argent puis garde ton auto...

c'est ça je me dis. Vu que c'est pas une vente sur ebay, paypal t'aide pas ben ben parce que ils veulent pas tu fasses des ventes en dehors de leur controlle genre : send money.
Si tu l'envois une grosse roche avec un tracking number pis tu gardes l'argent, me semble il peut pas te poursuivre pcq ta un tracking number?
 
the scam is the western union part, you send the 1000$ by western union to the other place, then they file a claim against you on paypal to get the whole amount they sent!
You cant get your money back from western union so you are fucked for about 1000$
 
comme Ayashifx55 a suggéré, pourquoi pas recevoir le cash sur paypal pis envoyer une roche dans une boite pour avoir un tracking number, si l'autre fait une plainte tu dis à paypal que tu lui as envoyé et tu as un tracking number et paypal pourra pas redonner l'argent au scammeur et toi tu gardes tout!
 
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