why does car makers don't bring European models here??

Avez-vous la moindre idée de ce que ça prend pour vendre un véhicule légalement au Canada ?

C'est ultra-mega-super-trop-deluxe chiant et encore la l'adjectif est faible! Pour la partie #2 ça coûte la peau du cul, pour le même prix ton char est en vente dans 5 pays Arabe et en Chine ou y'a ~250x plus de client potentiel en plus de pas avoir d'organisme de protection du consommateur, de gouvernement qui risque de te poursuivre parce que l'cave qui a acheté ton char a pas gonflé ses pneu et que ça serais de ta faute, etc..... une fois t'a vendu l'char c'est pus ton ****** de problème.
 
whatever the reason i wish they were here, some say the euro civic is uglier but i like it allot better than the ugly crap we have here

in person they look very good and the "glass" grill is interesting
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euro vs here
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also i saw the toyota auris there, it looks like a yaris with a wide body and a bigger engine !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Auris

found one from home http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/195/45663135.jpg

some nice pix... http://www.auris-tac.es/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=10&id=5851&Itemid=182


thers another thing in europe thats called a manual transmission people here forgot about, 95% of our clients that drive standart are women !? lazy north americans
 
manufacturers in NA are more into fighting for the family oriented market then for the sports car enthousiats side of the coin.
i think the reason why we dont get too much new cool cars is that its more of a money thing. nobody in america wants to pay 45 K jap box that will be a rust box in 5 years so why bother with new performance cars when you can buy a new usefull shitbox thats guaranted 4 years and save youre money for SOMETHING ELSE THATS SPORTY THATS WORTH PUTTING IN THE GARAGE IN THE WINTER or simply conserve.
the way i see it is that american manufacturers are scared of the word :sports , cuz its a market that alot of them have lost money in and its a market that you can be better served in the used at mostly 1/4 of the price.

also, women are more a important % of buyers than they where 20 years ago and women mostly want a car that drives itself, not a sports car that demandS to be DRIVEN.

the only thing that will truly bring back the competitive sports era in car manufacturers is inspection control that is centered into destroying or banning old cars, that way, the wide inventory of old sports cars will seem less attractive and more risky to the uneducated and thirstfull buyer
 
Mon avis:

Il y a peu de modeles europeens ici parce que les quelques fois que les constructeurs ont fait des essais, ca n'a pas pogné.
Meilleur exemple c'est la Ford Sierra avec la Merkur XR4Ti, ils ont essayés, ca pas vendu beaucoup, retour a la mustang.
 
Lexus said:
Economically, it would simply not be a beneficial move for euro manufacturers not present here, to make the jump. The only chance they would have is to ally themselves with an already established brand that has all the infrastructure in place. Do you imagine what creating a new dealer network from scratch would mean for a company like Renault or Citroen? And dealer network would be just 1 of the challenges.
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Renault through Nissan, Fiat/Alfa through GM, Seat and Skoda through VW (and why don't we get the polo after about 35 years of existence, nor the 1.4tsi, the Caddy, the scirocco).
PSA is the only group that has no link with any car maker present in North America.
 
The 1.6 turbo was made with PSA I think (named THP in Peugeot cars), but it's just a partnership, they aren't in the same group by any means.
 
Yeah, you're right, the 1.6 gas (NA and turbo) was a BMW/PSA joint venture. I thought it was only BMW.
 
J'aimerai bien ca avoir des bmw diesel ici. Il parait qu'il font pas mal la meme puissance qu'un moteur normal.
 
Ayashifx55 said:
J'aimerai bien ca avoir des bmw diesel ici. Il parait qu'il font pas mal la meme puissance qu'un moteur normal.
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j'ai été en europe yas quelque semaine et j'ai louer peugeot 308 de l'année...et je peut dire que dans manuel 6 vitesse c'est tres puissant pour diesel et a énormément de torque, pour véhicule, sans blague se genre de vehicule se vendrais tres bien puisque maintenant le gaz est rendu presque meme prix que ici (+15 a20 cent litre)...alors quand je mettais 80 euro, je pouvais me tapper 1460 km avec ma tite peugeot....éonnant et véhicule tres logeable et de bonne qualité

mais sa s'en vient les compagie world, oublier pas que ford ses rendu meme voiture euro/us....mitsubishi aussi avec venu colt ca va etre meme chose....j'ai vue las bas le nouveau outlander qui va sortir ici dans 1 ans justement (il exporte juste pas leur moteur diesel....genre RVR de mitsu avec moteur 1.6l diesel et focus 2012 avec moteur diesel)

voici photo peugeot 308 entk avec leur nouveau HDi, moi entk j'en acheterai une sans probleme....
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i dont know if its been said, but all north american cars need to be DOT (or whatever it is) approved because the safety standards over there are alot less than here. It would cost too much to convert all the cars to conform so they just don't import them.
 
Question de marché.

Le Québec c'est pas un marché.

Au japon. Ils ont des boîtes à beurre hautes, courtes et étroites. Allez voir les chars sur honda.co.jp... ça fait peur.

En Europe, c'est d'autres besoins. Aux USA (Amérique du nord), c'est un autre besoin.
 
The real answer is because for every model variations, the cars need to pass federal regulations and crash tests. The whole process for the USA costs about 1 million. If youre bringing over 1000 Golf R's for example, thats a extra 1000$ per vehicle cost. Unfortunately due to these tests and regulations, it's not always profitable and much higher risk for car companies to bring in niche market low volume models or editions...

And this doesn't only apply to import cars, it's for any car sold on the us or Canadian market, so domestic manufacturers have to play by the same rules.

This is the reason why motor choices are so limited here. Most cars have two engine choices, while in Europe there could be over 20 power train options. Offering 20 engine on one model would mean 20 crash test and certifications, 20+ millions dollars of expense just to be allowed to put the cars on the market.
 
sgsr20 said:
Tres vrai... C'est la raison pourquoi les Touareg V10 TDi & les Liberty CRD ont été retirés du marché... Ca s'encrassait ^comme c'est pas possible en endommageant le systeme antipollution au passage... :(
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V10 TDI was still sold in the USA until 2007/08 ish after the filter was installed... They sold about 15 of them in Canada in 2004 and pulled the plug . Didn't sell well because it was ungodly expensive and catered to a select market, besides the fuel economy wasn't that great. CRD Liberty was pulled off the market because it didn't sell either.. Kinda hard to sell people on the diesel option when the 3.7L V6 models were substantially cheaper.Diesel in North America is pretty damn good now. There is just no real market for diesel cars in North America, why should I buy a 335d for the same price as a 335i? is how people think.

This ad is how many still think about diesel.

Besides I am happy even with most of the engine line up in NA.. Why would anyone want a 1.0L 70hp Yaris? Goooood luck merging on the highway with 1 passenger and light load or worse a 1.4L MK4 Jetta. I guess it's not bad in a place where everyone drives an under powered car but here...
 
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