Guns don't kill peoples ... sauf hier quand des pompiers au travail sont mort

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It makes me rage when ignorant people think that guns kill. Did the gun load itself, levitate in the air, and magically pull its own trigger? LOL, get real.

Killers kill, please get that through your thick fucking heads. These people who go on killing sprees obviously needed medical attention to begin with and should've hospitalized. I mean, it's not like these are average joes were dealing with.

There are guns in my house (legally), but you don't see anybody in my family shooting or threatening anybody with them. In real life I've got a short fuse when it comes bullshit, but I've never pulled a gun on anybody or threatened to murder anyone. Given that this isn't a staged shooting just to get guns banned in the US, obviously the people who did it are sick in the head to begin with to have any motivation of murdering these public servants.

Firemen (aswell as paramedics) are just here to help our communities, and at times risk their lives while doing it. I don't think there's anything negative that I could possible think of about either of these noble and ballsy jobs.


Edit: I can already picture someone replying with "well if you had a Twin Turbo Lamborghini, are you going to speed or go 120 on the highway instead?", well my answer is: if I'm the type of person to speed, I'll speed. It doesn't matter what I'm driving. It can be a 20 year old Honda Civic with tons of rust, or a $500,000 Lamborghini. It doesn't matter. If the person already has that mentality of speeding, they're going to do it. This brings me back to if a person has the mentality of killing, they're going to do it. It really doesn't matter if they have a gun or not because they're already motivated and have their mind set on murder.

Guns don't do shit to people, so please stop blaming inanimate objects over a person's mental instabilities.
 
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Alain95i4 said:
et pourquoi que quelqu'un avec un gun serait dans ma maison maintenant
on n'est pas dans un ghetto de violence on est au Quebec
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I'd ought to ask my relatives why someone came to their homes and forced them to get to Auschwitz. Oh wait, that did happen and instead of me being absolutely FILTHY rich I am here bitching with the rest of you.

So why would someone be in your home holding a gun to your face? Because they can. It's the only reason you'll ever need and if you're okay with that, we don't need you.
 
So how exactly would having a gun help you if someone had a gun to your head? They will let you go get your gun before they shoot you?

I don't own a gun, I don't do martial arts, I doubt I could even bitch slap someone, but I've never felt the need to have a gun. If you feel the need to carry a gun, you should either move or reevaluate your general mental health.

And casino, it's true, guns on their own don't kill, but they make killing much, much, MUCH easier for anyone who wants to and they also make for unfortunate accidents.
 
C'est la faute aux jeux vidéo... certainement pas a leur culture du gun comme solution a tout les maux.


http://www.wired.com/underwire/2012/12/nra-video-games/

The National Rifle Association had an entire week following the tragedy in Sandy Hook to craft a response that reflected the complex, difficult and long-overdue conversation taking place around the nation regarding gun ownership, the availability of high-speed weaponry and mental illness in the United States.

Instead NRA spokesman Wayne LaPierre stood up at a press conference this morning and announced the real culprit behind mass shooting in our country: videogames.

Videogames, LaPierre said, are part of a “callous, corrupt and corrupting shadow industry that sells and stows violence against its own people.” Other members of the cultural Axis of Evil include music videos, the TMC horror movie double-feature “Splatterdays,” the 1994 film Natural Born Killers, which critiqued the media glorification of mass murderers, and the 20-year-old videogame franchise Mortal Kombat, which features no guns.

“In a race to the bottom, many conglomerates compete with one another to shock, violate, and offend every standard of civilized society, by bringing an even more toxic mix of reckless behavior, and criminal cruelty right into our homes,” said LaPierre. “Every minute, every day, every hour of every single year.”

We’ve seen this movie before. Every time the firearms lobby is taken to task in the wake of some horrifying gun crime, it trips all over itself to deflect the public’s outrage to videogames, TV and film. Never mind that there’s no scientific evidence correlating violent videogames and real-life violence.

“If videogames contributed to violence, we’d expect the Netherlands and South Korea to have the highest rates of gun related-violence — since they play they most violent videogames per capita,” says Christopher Ferguson, the Department Chair of Psychology and Communication at Texas A&M International, who has spent years researching the psychological effects of violent videogames. “But the rates are actually quite low,” said Ferguson.

Ferguson calls the NRA’s statements ”surreal.” He’s conducted studies on media violence that range from several hundred to several thousand participants, and the correlational findings not only fail to show a link between gaming and real-life violence, their outcomes found that gamers had less depression, less frustration, less fighting, less weapons carrying, and fewer arrest records.

Despite results like this, LaPierre plainly hopes that if he blathers on about pretend gun violence long enough, we’ll all forget that the very real violence that crashed into a quiet Connecticut town last week would not, and could not, have happened if the troubled perpetrator didn’t have ready access to guns.

The solutions to the mass shootings offered by the NRA press conference, which at times bore more resemblance to the first round of a brainstorming session, included exactly zero measures dealing with the numbers or types of guns available to Americans. Their preferred answers include: more armed guards in schools (a measure that didn’t prevent the tragedy at Columbine), the creation of a national database of the mentally ill, and nebulously addressing the “moral failings of the media” and the games, movies and other media that LaPierre deemed “the filthiest form of pornography.”

LaPierre’s NRA researchers even managed to dig up a videogame titled Kindergarten Killer, a 10-year-old Flash game set in a school that allows the player to fire weapons at both students and, for some reason, Arnold Schwarzenegger.

This is an especially ridiculous demonstration of LaPierre’s point, not only because Kindergarten Killer is an amateur game that pretty much no one ever played, but also because its gameplay features students firing back at the shooter with firearms of their own. It is actually the vision of the world the NRA says will save us: the one where all of us are armed and ready to take down potential mass murderers, wielding bullets against bullets in a firearm version of rock-paper-scissors.

“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” said LaPierre at the conference, a line that it’s not too difficult to imagine hearing in the voice of Duke Nukem.

The tragic, hilarious irony of the NRA is that its solution to gun violence – more guns – is ripped straight out of the shoot ‘em up videogames that they decry for their moral turpitude. Except while gamers seem to have no problem telling the difference between a fantasy world where every problem can be solved with more ammunition, and the real world, where nuanced problems required nuanced solutions, the NRA isn’t quite so lucky. And as long as they continue to promote their first-person shooter approach to gun violence in America, neither is anyone else.

Brian Mossop contributed to this report.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA said:
I'd ought to ask my relatives why someone came to their homes and forced them to get to Auschwitz. Oh wait, that did happen and instead of me being absolutely FILTHY rich I am here bitching with the rest of you.

So why would someone be in your home holding a gun to your face? Because they can. It's the only reason you'll ever need and if you're okay with that, we don't need you.
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oui ca s'appellait une guerre mene par un gouvernement faciste extremement raciste
on a une guerre mondiale au Canada ? non
on a un gouvernement faciste extremement raciste ? non
so shut the Joyeux Noel up
 
m'a conclusion sur les guns versus MR les "de souche" sont majoritairement anti gun et les "pas d'icittes" sont pro gun en majorite
 
Unless you sleep with a gun under your pillow, i'd like to see you running to your safe, take your weapon, load it, while someone's pointing a gun at your face. Sounds legit. Anyway, there's 50% of the chance you'll end up with a bullet between your eyes. Oh if you don't keep your firearms in a safe, I truly wish your kid wont get bullied at school.
 
(CNN) -- A man convicted of killing his grandmother decades ago ambushed firefighters on Monday, fatally shooting two of them as they arrived to battle a blaze in upstate New York, police said................ Authorities do not know how Spengler -- who was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound hours after the four firefighters were shot -- obtained the weapon or weapons he used or why he opened fire, Pickering told reporters. As a convicted felon, Spengler was not allowed to legally possess weapons, but he had "several different types of weapons" Monday, the police chief said.
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/24/us/new-york-firefighters-shooting/index.html

Okay, so a convicted felon used ILLEGAL weapons for murder.
What!?!?! It can't be true!! We all know criminals ONLY use legal, registered weapons! Doesn't he know owing illegal arms is wrong?

We need to impose more gun control on our honest citizens- That'll fix the problem, just like it did to illegal drugs like cocaine and weed, can't find those anywhere.


And by the way, a non-restricted weapon (such as a shotgun) can be stored under your bed as long as there's a trigger lock, and ammunition must be stored in a separate locked container that can share the same key... So it only takes about 20 seconds to go from defenseless to armed when you keep the key in your night stand..
 
And it takes half a second for someone to pull the trigger and kill you while your fumbling with your key......
 
Alain95i4 said:
m'a conclusion sur les guns versus MR les "de souche" sont majoritairement anti gun et les "pas d'icittes" sont pro gun en majorite
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Justement parce que d'ou je viens c'est ca la realite. C'est pas des limites imaginaires qui vont proteger moi et ma famille. Ca prend juste un cave a donner des ordres et une couple de couillons a les suivres pour commencer la merde. I bet you my family also thought the nazis would keep their crazy thinking within their own country, but they didn't. Now you think we're safe from our southern neighbors? Sure, times have changed but human nature didn't.
 
faque en cconclusion les pas d'icittes sont en train de decalisser la belle vie tranquille au Quebec avec leur obsession maladive pour les guns et la violence en plus d'avoir empecher l'independance en 95
 
BlueDSM said:
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/24/us/new-york-firefighters-shooting/index.html

Okay, so a convicted felon used ILLEGAL weapons for murder.
What!?!?! It can't be true!! We all know criminals ONLY use legal, registered weapons! Doesn't he know owing illegal arms is wrong?

We need to impose more gun control on our honest citizens- That'll fix the problem, just like it did to illegal drugs like cocaine and weed, can't find those anywhere.


And by the way, a non-restricted weapon (such as a shotgun) can be stored under your bed as long as there's a trigger lock, and ammunition must be stored in a separate locked container that can share the same key... So it only takes about 20 seconds to go from defenseless to armed when you keep the key in your night stand..
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ca prouve a quel point c'est facile avoir des armes illegalement quand y'en a autant pour absolument rien dans un pays
suffit d'en faire commander par une tierce personne d'un vendeur localise dans un etat du sud ou les lois sont extrement relax et les faire livrer dans l'etat ou tu vis et ou il serait impossible d'en avoir
 
en passant ce thread la denoncant la violence inutile causee par les armes a feu est un record sur MR jamais auparavant un gun nuts est venu defendre ses guns en page 2
 
Alain95i4 said:
faque en cconclusion les pas d'icittes sont en train de decalisser la belle vie tranquille au Quebec avec leur obsession maladive pour les guns et la violence en plus d'avoir empecher l'independance en 95
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C'est correct, tes ancetres sont aussi venu ici pour decalisser la belle vie tranquille des amerindiens. Commence pas because you're opening a pretty nasty can of worms.
 
Alain95i4 said:
en passant ce thread la denoncant la violence inutile causee par les armes a feu est un record sur MR jamais auparavant un gun nuts est venu defendre ses guns en page 2
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Ca vaut même pas la peine de s'astiner. Icitte sur MR, toute les pro-guns sont toute des commandos. J'en imagine une partie entrain de tracer leur shorts, d'autres se manger une balle en essayant de ramasser leur guns pi les autres tirer le p'tit scout qui vend des calendriers parce que de loin y'avait l'air d'un terroriste.
 
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Ca vaut même pas la peine de s'astiner. Icitte sur MR, toute les pro-guns sont toute des commandos. J'en imagine une partie entrain de tracer leur shorts, d'autres se manger une balle en essayant de ramasser leur guns pi les autres tirer le p'tit scout qui vend des calendriers parce que de loin y'avait l'air d'un terroriste.
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Strong words from someone with terrible spelling. You're the prime example why we shouldn't just give out guns to anyone.
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA said:
Strong words from someone with terrible spelling. You're the prime example why we shouldn't just give out guns to anyone.
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I'd rather judge someone by the way they behave socially, i'd understand your urge to arm yourself if you would live deep in the forest, but you live in a city so you are more of a threat than anything else. Stop using your primitive behavior and then we'll talk about who is more suited to live in society
 
_AFX_ said:
I'd rather judge someone by the way they behave socially, i'd understand your urge to arm yourself if you would live deep in the forest, but you live in a city so you are more of a threat than anything else. Stop using your primitive behavior and then we'll talk about who is more suited to live in society
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Of course I too rather judge someone by the way they behave socially, but society has chosen inaction or acceptance of social deviants as a solution. If we were actually getting rid of scumbags then the need to protect ourselves wouldn't be as great. But this would only put open carry up for debate. A castle law, in my opinion, should ALWAYS be in place. There is no reason for the absence of such a law. If you are in my home without my authorization you are an intruder and a threat. I should have every right to defend myself with whatever amount of force I choose.

Explain how my behavior is primitive.
 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA said:
Explain how my behavior is primitive.
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meme les hommes des cavernes etaient plus sociables que ca

un jour quelqu'un va defoncer ta porte parceque le toit de ta maison va etre en feu et sa seule pensee de bon gars va etre de sortir le monde de la maison pour pas qu'ils meurrent
PAF PAF y'est mort castle law for the win c'est deja arrive aux states

c'est comme l'officier de police americain en vacances a Calgary qui etait pret a tirer 2 donneurs de billets gratuits pour "sauver sa vie de 2 individus louches" mais heureusement a la frontiere des bons canadiens lui ont dit qu'au Canada on se promene pas avec des guns

C'est correct, tes ancetres sont aussi venu ici pour decalisser la belle vie tranquille des amerindiens. Commence pas because you're opening a pretty nasty can of worms
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c'est ben correct j'ai du metissage Abenakis comme beaucoup de gens de la mauricie et du sang irlandais aussi
 
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Alain95i4 said:
m'a conclusion sur les guns versus MR les "de souche" sont majoritairement anti gun et les "pas d'icittes" sont pro gun en majorite
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Serait ça une preuve du fait que l'esprit Français n'est pas compatible avec le raisonnement logique? (comme si l'existence meme du PQ n'en serait déjà preuve suffisante)
Ou serait-il peut etre que les Français sont si incapable de s'auto-controller au point de penser que la plupart des autres gens le sont aussi et donc qu'on ne doit jamais leur confier des outils à potentiel dangereux?
 
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