When DTM cars resembled road cars...
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android25ua
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This thread aroused me substantially.
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Big Pat
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There were never that many makes in DTM - usually 3. However, in the 80s, there were several classes, all running in the same race. That's why you have "dinky" cars mixed in... Same with BTCC and ETCC.
Howver, DTMs only looked like cars - they were space shuttles on the inside:
(repost from OT): http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9364
Opel Calibra AWD transmission - a train of gears brought power to tiny propshafts in the front wheels, all this to allow the engine to be placed longitudinally as low and as far back as possible. Crazy expensive solution... And that is not talking about the engine itself - 2.5L N/A V6, 450hp, 90kg... It even had pneumatic valve return.
And then to counter the AWd of Alfa Romeo and Opel, M-B introduced dynamic weight transfer - the ballast weight was mounted on a rig that allowed it to move and be placed were it would help - while the car was racing.
DTM died because it was "F1" expensive...
Howver, DTMs only looked like cars - they were space shuttles on the inside:
(repost from OT): http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=9364
Opel Calibra AWD transmission - a train of gears brought power to tiny propshafts in the front wheels, all this to allow the engine to be placed longitudinally as low and as far back as possible. Crazy expensive solution... And that is not talking about the engine itself - 2.5L N/A V6, 450hp, 90kg... It even had pneumatic valve return.
And then to counter the AWd of Alfa Romeo and Opel, M-B introduced dynamic weight transfer - the ballast weight was mounted on a rig that allowed it to move and be placed were it would help - while the car was racing.
DTM died because it was "F1" expensive...
oldschoolZ
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I watched that video so many times ! awesome
lord_galathon
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OP's avatar aroused me substantially.
Big Pat
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Epic video in this thread, have watched it at least 100 times in the last few years!
Love it when they all get air!
The last manly man driving we knew alongside Group A and B
Naaah, man. Plenty of manly men around - just look up the Dakar Motorcycle entry. Big badass men (and women!) right there.
jmacman12
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Not exactly DTM related, however I really like the Audi A4 Quattro Super Touring car because it's essentially a highly modified street legal b5.
Audi purposely styled it accordingly so that it resembled their production car so much, that people would buy it. Essentially all it has is a front lip and 19" wheels based on exterior view. There was even a commercial about it. The same ideology that this thread pertains to.
Audi purposely styled it accordingly so that it resembled their production car so much, that people would buy it. Essentially all it has is a front lip and 19" wheels based on exterior view. There was even a commercial about it. The same ideology that this thread pertains to.
Marek
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Oh dude for sure, there's always Isle of Man... But thats just a category of men with no soul and testicules made of molten yet bulletproof platinum...
Big Pat
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Their marketing department really did a good job, because that car doesn't have a single thing in common with a street car, except maybe the roof skin or the windshield, but I'm pretty sure they are thinner!
Supertouring cars were THE shit. Definately.
Mayerz
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I loved the touring B5's, 300hp all-motor 16V engine for the win
Documentary on the BTCC A4's, mostly biela:
http://montrealracing.com/forums/sh...ocumentaries&p=8888352&viewfull=1#post8888352
Documentary on the BTCC A4's, mostly biela:
http://montrealracing.com/forums/sh...ocumentaries&p=8888352&viewfull=1#post8888352
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