Article: Hyundai/Kia's Coming High-Tech Assault

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Cliff notes:

  • Direct injection on most engines
  • New 7 & 8 spd AT
  • New 6 & 7 spd DCT

http://www.motortrend.com/features/...a_coming_high_tech_assault/transmissions.html

Direct injection and variable valve lift are just the first steps in the Korean automaker's grand strategy for global leadership in gasoline (and diesel) engine efficiency. Work on electrically powered coolant pumps, cylinder deactivation, stratified injection, controlled auto-ignition combustion (the same 'diesotto' principle favored by Mercedes-Benz), and variable compression technology is underway at the company's R&D facilities
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One of the first existing engines to benefit from a new direct injection system is the 5.0-liter version of the Tau V-8, to be introduced in the U.S.-market Genesis from March 2011. This 435-horsepower engine will be teamed with a new eight-speed automatic. This transmission is also destined for Kia's Mohave SUV (known as the Borrego here, which will reportedly be discontinued), while a smaller, lower torque-rated version has been developed for pairing with the company's 3.3 and 3.8 liter Lambda V-6s, plus the turbo version of the 2.0-liter Theta four. The light-duty eight-speeder is headed for the Genesis sedan and Coupe next year.
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The story with the company's all-new double-clutch transmissions is a little hazy. While a number of engines teamed with six- and seven-speed double dry clutch transmissions were spied during a visit to the test cells of the company's Namyang R&D center last week, officials were mostly reluctant to discuss them. However, one loose-lipped engineer said the double clutch tech would debut next year in a new Hyundai "similar to the VW Scirocco." We're guessing he's talking about the much-anticipated Veloster hatchback coupe. (Our intel suggests Veloster will not be the car's final name here in the U.S.)
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Wow hyundai is really getting their shit together it's not even funny. Goodbye honda, toyota, nissan etc. Hyundai is heading for #1.

I would really like to own a hyundai dealership right now.
 
red_teg96 said:
Wow hyundai is really getting their shit together it's not even funny. Goodbye honda, toyota, nissan etc. Hyundai is heading for #1.

I would really like to own a hyundai dealership right now.
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I don't see it happening before 10 years...
 
logik23 said:
5.0 manual RWD Gen Coupe > AWD automatic crap
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MT is outgamed in every class except driver involvement. I prefer to focus solely on my driving then shifting Hyundai's rubbery, DMF, and grinding 6MT.

To Migos:

Hyundai is already outselling Nissan. Their next target is Honda.
 
DivImport said:
MT is outgamed in every class except driver involvement. I prefer to focus solely on my driving then shifting Hyundai's rubbery, DMF, and grinding 6MT.

To Migos:

Hyundai is already outselling Nissan. Their next target is Honda.
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Fun is the only thing i give a shit about on the road.

And if they can't make a decent manual box, how do you expect them to make a good DCT?
 
logik23 said:
Fun is the only thing i give a shit about on the road.

And if they can't make a decent manual box, how do you expect them to make a good DCT?
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What's the point in putting millions of dollar in R&D into an obsolete technology? Their 6MT was their first ever 6spd RWD MT configuration. I didn't expect any better than what I have.

Facts are, a MT is down on every aspects to a DCT except driving involvement, and that is highly subjective and something I don't abide to. Having had the chance to drive a GT-R, I'll take a DCT any day of the week over a MT.

DCT gets you:

Better MPG
Better performance
Better drive-ability

Let's not turn this into a MT vs DCT thread, it has been covered to death.
 
I won't, but I have one last point: Hyundai can't make a decent transmission that's essentially been around for 60 years? Pretty pathetic IMO. And this comes from a guy that loves Hyundai.
 
wanna contribute to the environment? Buy a used car.
Although it's true Hyundai is srs bzness lately.
 
logik23 said:
I won't, but I have one last point: Hyundai can't make a decent transmission that's essentially been around for 60 years? Pretty pathetic IMO. And this comes from a guy that loves Hyundai.
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Believe me, I'm on my second transmission, I am totally pissed.

However seeing Hyundai innovate and offer quality products at fractions of their competitors makes me look beyond these faults.

I have a deposit on the upcoming 1M. If Hyundai comes out with a 5.0 DI V8 with AWD and DCT, or even if it's just RWD and MT, at a similar or lower price point than the BMW, I see no reason to opt for the latter.
 
DivImport said:
MT is outgamed in every class except driver involvement. I prefer to focus solely on my driving then shifting Hyundai's rubbery, DMF, and grinding 6MT.

To Migos:

Hyundai is already outselling Nissan. Their next target is Honda.
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Source?
 
mig0s said:
Source?
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http://www.autoblog.com/2010/11/03/by-the-numbers-october-2010-trick-or-treat-edition/

Hyundai: 42,656
Kia: 31,199

Nissan: 61,843
Infiniti: 7,930

They just recently started edging them thanks to the Sonata.

P.S.: Hyundai is selling close to 3,000 Genesis Sedans & Coupes per month. With only 2 models in their lineups versus 6 for Infinity which is selling around 7,000 units a month, I wish Hyundai would step up and create a Genesis lineup. These new techs should provide them with the luxury boost needed to make it happen.
 
DivImport said:
MT is outgamed in every class except driver involvement. I prefer to focus solely on my driving then shifting Hyundai's rubbery, DMF, and grinding 6MT.

To Migos:

Hyundai is already outselling Nissan. Their next target is Honda.
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If you group Hyundai and Kia they outsell Nissan,Mazda,Honda & Volkswagen.

Saw a graph recently,trying to find it.
 
I love how Hyundai is kicking ass but I hate how they always copy everyone. Get you're own damn ideas and technologies. In the small article you posted, there are already talking about 3 technologies stolen from other brands. I will fully respect Hyundai the day they'll invent something.

Europeans came out with ABS, ESP, FSI (Direct Injection), Variable Timing, Twin Clutch transmissions etc... What did Hyundai come out with other than cheaper replicas of these technologies?! Nothing really... I can go copy on every car maker in the world and put a cheaper price tag on it because I didn't pay for R&D and make money, but it's not fair and therefore do not deserve any credit. I know they just built a huge R&D center, but what is it used for? To copy other's technologies?!

Anyhow, they have a very interesting line up at killer prices. They will only have my respect when, as I said earlier, they come up with their own shit.
 
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